Regardless of the stated intentions, OntheWayOut, Enlightenment thought has served as yet another form of social control. It's just less obvious to the casual observer because of the feel-good jargon used to describe it. Liberation, freedom, enlightenment, fraternity, equality—who would view these terms in a negative way? Doesn't the Watchtower use love bombing in a similar fashion?
Atheism's occult roots
by NoStonecutters 192 Replies latest jw friends
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still thinking
One thing, though. Occult means hidden. Biblegod is in hiding. By defintion, that kind of worship is occult.
Good point Satanus
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cofty
Groundless assertions - you still have all your work to do to provide a shred of evidence.
What was the name of that book you referred to a few days ago on this topic?
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mrsjones5
Uh no. It you don't believe in something it involves no elevating of anything. Like someone just said...bollocks.
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Satanus
'Enlightenment thought has served as yet another form of social control. It's just less obvious to the casual observer because of the feel-good jargon used to describe it. Liberation, freedom, enlightenment, fraternity, equality—who would view these terms in a negative way?'
When coming out from over control, a gradual release is necesary, otherwise you would have an explosion. It's a series of steps to a point where every man is a law to himself. This is the kind of freedom that jesus spoke about, at times. It's like humankind growing up. It could be thousands of yrs into the future, though.
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NoStonecutters
Illuminati atheist propaganda in the Soviet Union depicting the "oppression" of Christ and the Church
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mrsjones5
Whatever dude. I swear some folks just want to demonize anything that doesn't fit into their small minded little world.
Have fun with that.
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Satanus
What is your definition of illuminatti?
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NoStonecutters
Cofty, I think you are referring to Eugene (Seraphim) Rose's Nihilism: The Root of Revolution of the Modern Age
“What, more realistically, is this "mutation," the "new man"? He is the rootless man, discontinuous with a past that Nihilism has destroyed, the raw material of every demagogue's dream; the "free-thinker" and skeptic, closed only to the truth but "open" to each new intellectual fashion because he himself has no intellectual foundation; the "seeker" after some "new revelation," ready to believe anything new because true faith has been annihilated in him; the planner and experimenter, worshipping "fact" because he has abandoned truth, seeing the world as a vast laboratory in which he is free to determine what is "possible"; the autonomous man, pretending to the humility of only asking his "rights," yet full of the pride that expects everything to be given him in a world where nothing is authoritatively forbidden; the man of the moment, without conscience or values and thus at the mercy of the strongest "stimulus"; the "rebel," hating all restraint and authority because he himself is his own and only god; the "mass man," this new barbarian, thoroughly "reduced and "simplified" and capable of only the most elementary ideas, yet scornful of anyone who presumes to point out the higher things or the real complexity of life.”
—Seraphim Rose, Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern AgeRose was an atheist convert to Orthodox Christianity.
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Chariklo
I understand what you're saying, stonecutters, and I know there are plenty of others who share your views, but here on this site I suspect you won't find that many will openly own to agreeing with you.