RBC biggie divulges WTS expects disaster victims helped by RBC volunteers to fork over insurance money to the WTS (page 3)

Sauerkraut

Not even members are deserving of charity. Everytime I think the WTS can't surprise me anymore I find out something new that makes me sick. And they manage to use and misuse everything for publicity stunts.

designs

sauerkraut- Demanding insurance settlement money really took them to a new low.

tiki

sounds like insurance fraud to me.

Bonnie_Clyde

How does the Society demand payment? Do they instruct the elders to demand or just suggest they turn over the insurance funds?

Think About It

As much as I'd like to slam the WTS on this.....there's not much here to fuss about. If the repair for insurance check arrangement is made up front, and the JW home owner is getting a fair deal, then it is a personal business deal. The problem could be if the person's insurance check is for way more than the amount of repairs they received. What would be interesting to know is the selection criteria for who's house gets repaired. Is it based on who has insurance, and how much insurance? Are JW suck ups placed ahead of R&F members? etc.

DesirousOfChange

ELDERLITE: Disaters are big business for the wt society.

For at least a decade this has been their procedure. Of course, they use the insurance money (and free labor) to rebuild all the Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls as well. Any Cong Pub who does not have insurance, also gets the benefit of the "free funds" and volunteer labor. I would like to know if any NON-JWs (ie neighbors of the KH or of JWs) get their homes rebuilt if they have no insurance proceed to offer up? In foreign countries, it is not unusual for the RBC volunteers to assist in the rebuilding of schools and government offices.

What I would like confirmed is if ANY of the funds from the insurance proceeds or any of the contributions given specifically for the hurricane or disaster relief make their way into the WTS cash coffers? IF it is all spent on rebuilding in the disaster area, then the RBC Disaster Relief is a credible charitable work. However, IF ANY of the money is "left over" and goes to the Assembly Hall (where the disaster work is typically headquartered), or to the WTS Branch, then it is a fraudulent money-making scheme that takes advantage of the generosity of the volunteers and contributors.

Has anyone been high enough up in the RBC to confirm what really takes place?

Does anyone have the "balls" (and close enough relationship) to ask an RBC Chairman to know the Truth about this operation? Just approach him with an "Is it true what I have heard. . . . yada yada yada?"

Doc

jeremiah18:5-10

What bothers me most about it is they portray this differently, or at least did when I was still in 5 years ago. There was never a mention of the WTS being re-imbursed from insurance funds. They made it out to be 100% donation/charity/goodwill work. Never was it even implied that any financial return from the insured was expected or received. That bothers me greatly. Perhaps that has changed in the last 5 years. If they are up front about it and disclose this detail, then fine, I have no problem with it. Deceit doesn't sit well with me, but its par for the course for the WTS!!

DaCheech

What I can't understand is: if these homeowners have mortgage companies??? then they ask for insurance $$$$ to be forwarded to them until steps of re-building can be shown.............. then they will forward $$$ to approved contractors?

How is the homeowner coming up with choice of cash distribution?

Are they guilting the people like that husband-wife account in the bible who sold the land and only gave 1/2 to the apostles?

Chaserious

It's not insurance fraud. As long as you pay insurance premiums, you are entitled to get the fair commercial cost of repairs and do whatever you want with it. You could take a cruise around the world with the money if you want. If you have a mortgage, your mortgage company might have to sign off on the check if it's over a certain amount, depending on what state you are in. But they don't care where the money goes as long as the work gets done. I'm sure the way the RBC phrases it, they don't demand the money, but just highly pressure you to hand it over. I worked on the RBC for a few years and wasn't aware of this. They probably have the RBC bigshots talk to the homeowners, and I doubt they put anything on paper. It's sleazy, especially with the PR spin they put on it for the literature, but it's still a voluntary donation. To be honest, it's not a bad deal for the homeowners, because if you paid a contractor the money to get the work done, you'd be right back where you started. If you make the donation to the WTS, you're back to where you started, plus you can deduct it from your taxes. On a $50k repair job, that could easily translate into a $15k tax refund, plus getting your house fixed.

DaCheech: You are close, but I worked for a homeowers insurance company in the past. Once you satisfy them that the repairs are done/are getting done, they have to sign the check over to the homeowner. In most states, it's illegal for them to force you to forward the money to an approved contractor or require that a contractor be on the check.

OUTLAW

JW`s supply labour and supplies..

The house is fixed..

The JW makes a claim for an undamaged house..

Then gives the money for "the house that isn`t damaged" to the WBT$..

................................. ...OUTLAW

RBC biggie divulges WTS expects disaster victims helped by RBC volunteers to fork over insurance money to the WTS

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