Is homosexuality wrong?

by forgetmenot 84 Replies latest jw friends

SixofNine

: Is homosexuality wrong?
For me, the answer is yes, it would be so very, very wrong. However, I imagine that homosexuals and bisexuals would have a different answer.
simplesally

"What's mon couer mean?" Did he just ask me out?
Tallyman

Therefore, what people choose to do in their private lives is none of anyone's business, IMNSHO.
Patio,
in your "NOT-so-humble-opinion"? ...hmmm.
(oh no... not the "Bonobo chimps", again!)
Well, anyway, so you're saying that the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
policy is the way to go? And like in public forums like this,
it would be 'sticking it in someone's face' to 'come out of the closest' and express PRIDE in homosexual behavior, like, kinda
looking for "validation" or sumpin'?
You're saying it would be best for the homosexuals to just keep
it "zipped", lips and otherwise... when it comes to this public,
not private, forum?
And back to the Bonobo chimps?
And your saying "it just is"...
Well,
child pornography "just is"... but...
Hey, what are the age differences in some of those Bonobo chimps
when they're making homosexual whoopie?
Do MEN Chimps lure little BOY Chimps into a secluded part of the
rainforest and offer them a nice ripe banana, if they ... ?
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Tallyman

Another point about bestiality, to Tallyman. I wouldn't have an opinion on that, except what the law of the land says.
Patio,
WHICH law, and WHICH land?
Singapore and its laws or the Netherlands and its laws?
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butalbee

If masturbation leads to homosexuality, according to the WT, then please think of the cute cuddly little kittens!
terafera2

You know what's funny? If you express your opinion, you're only right if your post is what the reply-er agrees to!
"Tera, your dumb. Gay is right. Why? Cuz I said so!"
Hmm..this thinking makes me think of....where was it... oh thats right! The kingdom halls! You just accept it, no questions asked, who cares if it makes no sense.
I notice only certain ones are replying. It could be the lurkers are afraid of posting they think it's wrong. Because clearly, when surveys are done and the person stays anonymous, the majority disagrees with homosexuality. The ones for it feel a certain pride in saying 'look how educated and open minded we are'.
There are many things I would not like to open minded about. For example- there are groups headed by gay men like the Man/Boy group (or whatever the heck they're called) that want to make the legal age for having sex with boys younger than 18. It is no secret that most gay males favor and fantasize about young men, even boys. You cannot, will not, ever, cover this up and say it's all about 'love'.
How many gay men meet one man, stay committed with no outside partners for the rest of their life? I know many heterosexuals that do...but in the gay lifestyle it does- not- happen. The gay lifestyle is about going from person to person. You do not meet alot of straights that hang out in bath houses looking for a 'fix up'. There might be some, but it is not the norm. You will find this a common occurance among gays. There are bathrooms where gays will anonymously have sex, not knowing their names. And this is 'love'? When people say God doesnt care who we love, thats a joke.
It's not about love. You can love anyone you want. When you take in an unhealthy lifestyle, there are reprecussions.
My mother and father grew up in a small hometown where there was a small number of gays. They would dress up and hang out together. My parents vividly recall them yelling at passerby, offering B.J.'s and cat calling men. They would hit on little boys, and a close friend of my mother's got sucked into the lifestyle. He admitted the gay men paid him for favors and she would see him riding around town with them, in a new car and new clothes. Where is he now? He died of AIDS. My father even admitted to me that one of the gay men cornered him and molested him as he tried to get away. This is something I have never told anyone, but it shows the lifestyle and mentality of the 'gay' lifestyle. Anyone who denies it is in deep denial and needs help.
Do I have to tell every person my view? Of course not! Do gays deserve to live without harm? Of course! Am I wrong for having my own beliefs? Of course not!
Just because we're no longer Witnesses does not mean we throw all sense out the window.
Tallyman

terafera,
Methinks you are standing on Terra Firma.
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bitter mango

who gives a fuck what everyone else thinks? live yer life for you... you think something is wrong, don't do it (but that doesn't give you the right to decide what's good or bad for other people). support/encourange the people you can (and want) and those you can't (or won't), just leave them alone. life's too short to pick and choose who's right and who's wrong cos we all end up in the same damn place in the end.
(¯`·.¸the agents of oblivion descend upon the sane¸.·´¯)
dedalus

You know what's funny? If you express your opinion, you're only right if your post is what the reply-er agrees to!
"Tera, your dumb. Gay is right. Why? Cuz I said so!"
Some opinions are dumb. They deserve to be called dumb.
Hmm..this thinking makes me think of....where was it... oh thats right! The kingdom halls! You just accept it, no questions asked, who cares if it makes no sense.
Are you arguing for a universe in which each opinion is equally valid? Should we embrace bigotry as enthusiastically as tolerance and understanding?
I notice only certain ones are replying. It could be the lurkers are afraid of posting they think it's wrong. Because clearly, when surveys are done and the person stays anonymous, the majority disagrees with homosexuality. The ones for it feel a certain pride in saying 'look how educated and open minded we are'.
What surveys? Majority of whom? If the majority of a group believes something, does that make the belief correct? Oh, wait, this is you're "opinion" -- hands off!
There are many things I would not like to open minded about. For example- there are groups headed by gay men like the Man/Boy group (or whatever the heck they're called) that want to make the legal age for having sex with boys younger than 18.
I've never heard of this. None of my gay friends have mentioned it. Are you sure this group exists, and if it does, do you think it represents the gay majority?
It is no secret that most gay males favor and fantasize about young men, even boys.
You're a fucking idiot. Tell me, on what do you base this precious "opinion"?
You cannot, will not, ever, cover this up and say it's all about 'love'.
More fucking idiocy. The evidence against this "opinion" of yours is so overwhelming and so public, it's a wonder you can make such a statement without thinking twice.
How many gay men meet one man, stay committed with no outside partners for the rest of their life? I know many heterosexuals that do...but in the gay lifestyle it does- not- happen.
Proof? Evidence? No, wait, this is your "opinion" something you just made up and don't want challenged!
Most heterosexuals I know go from "partner" to "partner" -- it's called dating. Most homosexual partners I know are in stable relationships and have been for many years. Not that you'll care one way or another, asshole.
The gay lifestyle is about going from person to person. You do not meet alot of straights that hang out in bath houses looking for a 'fix up'. There might be some, but it is not the norm. You will find this a common occurrence among gays. There are bathrooms where gays will anonymously have sex, not knowing their names. And this is 'love'? When people say God doesnt care who we love, thats a joke.
It's not about love. You can love anyone you want. When you take in an unhealthy lifestyle, there are reprecussions.
More bigoted Nazi bullshit. How's it feel to use the same propaganda tactics employed by Hitler? But hey, even Hitler was entitled to his opinions, right?
My mother and father grew up in a small hometown where there was a small number of gays. They would dress up and hang out together.
NO WAY! You mean they ... dressed up ... and ... hung out ... together! The depravity!
My parents vividly recall them yelling at passerby, offering B.J.'s and cat calling men. They would hit on little boys, and a close friend of my mother's got sucked into the lifestyle. He admitted the gay men paid him for favors and she would see him riding around town with them, in a new car and new clothes.
Well, that proves it. The behavior of a few people is evidence for the behavior of all people. Of course, this story happens to conform to every stereotype of gay people, I can only imagine your parents making up shit to scare you with, so you wouldn't "turn out" gay yourself. Did they tell you that black people were lazy and stupid, because they knew some black lazy stupid people?
Where is he now? He died of AIDS. My father even admitted to me that one of the gay men cornered him and molested him as he tried to get away. This is something I have never told anyone, but it shows the lifestyle and mentality of the 'gay' lifestyle. Anyone who denies it is in deep denial and needs help.
My bet is that your father, like you, is full of shit and is probably an asshole in denial about his own sexual identity. But even if his story is true, he's still an idiot and so are you for not being able to think beyond the surface of his narrative. Don't heterosexuals rape and molest people all the time??? Would it be fair to say that this is part of the "heterosexual lifestyle"?
Do I have to tell every person my view? Of course not! Do gays deserve to live without harm? Of course!
How big of you.
Am I wrong for having my own beliefs? Of course not!
Yes, you are. You need to be liberated from your opinions -- holding them doesn't make you right.
Just because we're no longer Witnesses does not mean we throw all sense out the window.
Yes it does, if sense = hate and stupidity.
'I've tried so hard, but in the end it doesnt even matter..' Linkin Park
What a lame fucking quote.
Dedalus
bitter mango

uhoh... bea's mad
TERA :
How many gay men meet one man, stay committed with no outside partners for the rest of their life?
do you mean stay with the very first person they meet?? well you asked... i know 3 gay men (all in their 30's) and 2 of them were teenagers when they first had 'gay sex' and are STILL with their first boyfriends and don't cheat (to my knowledge). aww ain't that sweeeeeet *gets all mushy*
I know many heterosexuals that do...
only seen this happen once..
but in the gay lifestyle it does- not- happen. The gay lifestyle is about going from person to person.
are YOU gay? do YOU have any gay friends? what are you basing this claim on?? get some facts or provide me with some personal info and then we'll talk
You do not meet alot of straights that hang out in bath houses looking for a 'fix up'. There might be some, but it is not the norm.
oh? i don't?? hmm, that's pretty funny considering about 8 out of 10 of my close pals haven't been in an actual relationship in months or years... yet they still get laid every weekend
You will find this a common occurance among gays. There are bathrooms where gays will anonymously have sex, not knowing their names.
shit, come to where i live and go in a bar bathroom... you'll find lots of straight people getting it on in the bathroom stalls. my best pal in grade 9 was 100% straight and to this day she doesn't know the name of her son's dad . but just gays are like that, eh??
And this is 'love'? When people say God doesnt care who we love, thats a joke.
It's not about love. You can love anyone you want. When you take in an unhealthy lifestyle, there are reprecussions.
*laugh* you fucking hypocrite.. don't bring in the whole caring about living healthy lifestyles bullshit. you don't give a shit. if you did, you wouldn't pulling unfactual and unexperienced information out of your ass...you'd be complaining about teen pregnancy, kids with aids, junkies doing dope on the streets, etc.
My mother and father grew up in a small hometown where there was a small number of gays. They would dress up and hang out together. My parents vividly recall them yelling at passerby, offering B.J.'s and cat calling men. They would hit on little boys, and a close friend of my mother's got sucked into the lifestyle. He admitted the gay men paid him for favors and she would see him riding around town with them, in a new car and new clothes.
i appreciate finally hearing some kind of personal experience so i can somewhat understand where your thoughts and ideas about gays are coming from (even though the info is second-hand from your parents). to be even, i'll reply in the same manner. my parents also grew up in a small town. they went to high school with 3 gay boys. all 3 boys were 'out' and openly gay. one of them was at a party one night with a bunch of people. he took advatage of a drunk and passed out man in one of the bedrooms. the gay guy was 100% sober AND was fully aware that the guy he was giving oral sex to was straight and WOULD NOT approve of what was going on if he was awake. on the other hand, the other two boys never ever offended anyone, never uttered vulgar or rude things at anyone and were very respectful young adults. being gay DOES NOT make someone an asshole that doesn't respect other people!!!
Where is he now? He died of AIDS.
that is really truly sad, tera. something that makes me even sadder tho (because it hits a little closer to home) is my dad. where is HE now? he is in my bed sleeping right now. he came to visit me for the weekend ! we had a long chat tonight about catching up for the passed 10 years we've hardly been able to be together. what triggered this?? well, he thinks he is dying from AIDS. no, he certainly isn't gay, but he may have gotten it from sharing a needle with/having unprotected sex with his WIFE. disease doesn't give a damn if you are gay or not... if you aren't careful (gay OR straight) you put yourself at risk.
on a happier note, one of those gay men i mentioned earlier is still good friends woth my mom. wanna know where HE is now?? no, he doesn't have AIDS... he has an awesome relationship with his boyfriend, they have a beautiful home, both have great jobs and they're living it up..happy as can be.
My father even admitted to me that one of the gay men cornered him and molested him as he tried to get away. This is something I have never told anyone, but it shows the lifestyle and mentality of the 'gay' lifestyle. Anyone who denies it is in deep denial and needs help.
i'm truly sorry to hear about your father's experience. i can relate. for 5 years i was raped and molested by my stepmother. but fortunatly i could never be so sick in the head to blame her bisexuality for the abuse... i blame the problems she has inside her head for the abuse. THE REAL PROBLEM!!
i can tell you that i was very close to vomiting when i read your comment "This is something I have never told anyone, but it shows the lifestyle and mentality of the 'gay' lifestyle." ... you just pretty well accused me of the most awful thing imaginable to me - being capable of sexually abusing someone because i am bisexual. who the fuck are you to make such a bold claim???? who the fuck are you to say that a gay person has any more of a mentality to rape/molest than someone who is not gay?? you are a very sick person! and right now, you are just as vile as the people who sexualy harm others for making a statement like that. *puke*
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