New here and just sick!

by msconcerned 103 Replies latest jw friends

  • a watcher
    a watcher

    msconcerned, in reality haven't the GB been functioning as the FDS all along? Now that they make it official, why does it bother you? Doesn't it make sense?

    You're concerned with 1914 and 1975? Why? Why are you focusing backward? Remember the wife of Lot. The most important things are happening now and in the future.

    "Jesus said to him: 'No man that has put his hand to a plow and looks at the things behind is well fitted for the kingdom of God.'" (Luke 9:62)

  • Splash
    Splash

    @ a watcher

    I think msconcerned is focussing backwards so he can learn what to expect in the future.

    Given the GB's historical nonsense and lack of success in 'prophesying' ANYTHING accurately, I think msconcerned has good reason to be concerned.

    You ask why the new FDS teaching bothers anyone? It's because if it was wrong before:

    1. Where did that wrong teaching come from exactly (for 95 years)?

    2. Who's to say this latest idea isn't also wrong, and will be changed in... well that's anyones guess.

    3. How can anything the GB say be trusted, with such an appalling track record?

    Splash

  • cptkirk
    cptkirk

    Don't worry msconcerned, you will soon be a devlish, mouth-drooling, red eyed, wicked, gluttonous apostate...think about it for a second, the idea that you would become that by just trying to do some fact checking?(does that sound right?) there are plenty of facts to be found here, also opinions, and also wild ranting....the key is to be able to distinguish which from which. if you look at what "onthewayout" said (even though I have no clue about this matter) he is more than likely correct (based on what i've seen from him in the past). he is talking straight, and sometimes you will see that kind of talk on here, but really underneath, it is actually ad hominem stuff. but sometimes on the flip side , it is really someone that knows the real story (and the real story isn't always pretty). ask yourself, if in fact this unflattering story was in fact the real story(behind the new light), then how would you expect someone to articulate it to you?(someone who has been led to believe nonsense at the cost of major personal sacrifice)

    ie. maybe it's not just a bunch of wicked apostates (and that is how they behave because they are wicked apostates). maybe it is just real people that are very unhappy that they were lied to.

  • dog is god
    dog is god

    Welcome! As I used to get info for my JW mom she would say that she only would read info from the publications. So I asked her, just where do you think the info they use comes from? The Society is VERY afraid of the internet. I contend that they make their own beliefs invalid because they do worship a trinity. THe bible says there is ONE Mediator etc. They have Jah, Jesus and the Gov. Bod.

  • irondork
    irondork

    A Watcher: ...in reality haven't the GB been functioning as the FDS all along?

    No. They have only been functioning this way since the 70's. Before that, Knorr was IT! Before that, Rutherford was IT! Before that, Russell was IT!

  • clarity
    clarity

    Ms ....... welcome to you.

    Glad you found us ... we understand how you feel,

    we understand the frustration & anger when we trust

    and then realize ......... they lied!

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    The final straw for me was the last (2010) 'generation'

    switcherroo!

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    Yup .... 50 yrs believing that I was one of the 'millions'

    now living who will NEVER die!!!!

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    Foolish I now know. They changed it without so much as

    a "sorry! ". Instead they beat the older ones even

    more, saying "Stop your complaining"!

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    What did they call us........ whiners " just like the Israelites"

    I'll look that up ......should be in a watchtower sometime in

    summer 2010.

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    We do feel for you and what you are going thru ...hang in.

    Keep posting.

    >

    Our new friend WatchtowerFree posted this on here for you

    & it is important to remember.....

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    "Questioning the Watchtower corp. is not questioning GOD .

    They are not God"

    >

    c

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Did I count right?

    SIX NEWBIES TODAY?

    1000 will grab onto the skirt . . . . . .

    Doc

  • ABibleStudent
    ABibleStudent

    Welcome msconcerned, Your emotional roller-coaster has begun!

    When you are ready to heal, I would recommend that you read Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"), visiting Steve Hassan's website, and posting regularly on JWN to help you release your emotions so that don't let your emotions erupt onto unsuspecting JW family and friends.

    Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

    Robert

  • Borges
    Borges

    Welcome and enjoy the journey that lies ahead of you! There is so much to learn and so much to experience outside the Wachttower-World.

  • Vidqun
    Vidqun

    Welcome Msconcerned, do yourself a favor and read Matt. 24:45-47. Now carry on reading (vs.48-50). Granted it is a hypothetical question, but it is very relevant. Jesus would not have mentioned it otherwise (see also Luk. 12:41-48). Now ask yourself: When are they going to be appointed over the domestics? Their job is to feed, not to judge. Ony afterwards will they be allowed to judge (if they are found to be faithful). Paul asks the question: YOU men already have YOUR fill, do YOU? YOU are rich already, are YOU? YOU have begun ruling as kings without us, have YOU? And I wish indeed that YOU had begun ruling as kings, that we also might rule with YOU as kings. (1 Co 4:8 NWT). There's some food for thought.

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