Is he sinning? (page 2)

JT

Elder Flower

I would like to welcome you to the site, Many of us realize that risk you are taking by merely being here, but we welcome you . Many of us have served in different roles in the org and it has given us an insight into many things that the avg publisher will never see or hear.

While I have different views about the Org and what they teach than you do, the issue in this post is clear.

I assume that you are an elder- if so then you should be aware of the guidelines that the society has given to elders about couseling sisters alone if that is the case how much more so with a nonjw woman

According to even wt rules he could not justify being with this woman alone like this,

according to the Youth book he is DATING and being a married elder and she being a married woman, it is very clear

putting aside the wt view on the matter, just in a pratical sense they are setting themselves up for some physical contact, holding hands, a kiss a touch and rub and perhaps more.

The best test that any married person can take if they REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THIS ARRANGEMENT IS to ask thier mate> smile

but welcome again to the board

JT

Yvonne

I think you have asked the Wrong Question, in my view. The issue is not so much is he sinning, but are the TWO of you fooling yourselves.

If the two of you merely said " yep i want this man or i want this woman then that is one issue, but to say.
"We just Friends" is to fool yourself as an adult-

While it is true men and women can get together for laughs, the key point is the EMOTIONS ( ARE ANY INVOLVED) and it sounds like the 2 of your are trying your best to fool yourselves.

as everyone has stated there could be price that the 2 of your will not want to pay.

Even though i am no longer a jw - there were some principles in wt that are good to apply anywhere.

Why not test yourselves and see if you can be honest about how the 2 of you feel,

the way to do this is to invite your mates along with the 2 of you so that he can met your husband and you can meet his wife.

if you are merely friends then certainly there is nothing to fear about meeting someone that you have befriended.

Will his wife approve of you 2 meeting like you do or would your husband say: "COOL honey, i'm sure he is a great guy"

it is clear to most of us based on what you have told us- you guys are trying hard to fool yourselves, esp in veiw of the fact that since many of us are former jw and this guys Still claims to not only be a jw but a JW Elder, we know that according to HIS OWN RULES he is dead meat.

while he may not be happy with his wife and may need to move on and you likewise maybe, but the playing like:
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"WE BE JUST FRIENDS"

IN MY VIEW IS A JOKE

while he is not sinning he

the 2 of you are certainly heading down a road where SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET HURT, it could be:

1. YOUR HUBBY
2. HIS WIFE

3. ANY KIDS

4 FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO KNOW BOTH OF YOU

5. and You or Him

but you can take this to the bank- if continue on this path someone is going to feel SOME PAIN

BUT THAT IS UP TO THE TWO OF YOU
your call

James
ain't heading down a r

ElderFlower

Dear Yvonne,

Thank you very much for your reply! I would really like to talk with you about this, I want to make you feel better about it and more comforted and confident about the situation. I can't seem to view your Email address, so my Email address is [email protected] I will check for your Email for a little while, but after that, I will discard this new Email address. I have composed a message for you in reply that I will Email to you :) I am not going to come in here anymore though. I hope you are having a nice evening :)

With warmest wishes,

ElderFlower

JT

Elder Flower says::)

I am not going to come in here anymore though.

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I hate to see you go, but it is your choice, but do me one favor, please i beg of you.

Take note of the date and time of your last post --

print it out and save it in a very safe place- then in about 5 or 10 yrs from now when you decide to take a closer look at ALL THE CARDS OF WT ON THE TABLE

YOU WILL reflect back on a time when you came so close to doing an honest evaluation.

I left bethel in 1988 - and i got a letter from a buddy of mine in 1989 asking me to take a serious look at the org and i trashed his letter only to go almost 10yrs before i re-examined things

i just ask of you to NOTE THE DATE OF YOUR LAST POST

thanks

james

garybuss

Will Power wrote: <The bible says that if you are thinking it, it is the same as doing it. >

Try that concept next time constipation strikes. . . . or next time hunger strikes . . . think about food and see if you feel full . .

Sorry, a thought is just a thought.

butalbee

First let me just say, welcome to the board.

Ok, this elder dude really pisses me off big time, he doing w/ you, even though you percieve it as purely platonic, exactly what he expects his loyal sheep NOT to do, and that is plainly not to get involved with worldly people...For the same situation, if a brother in his congreg. did this it would be very frowned upon, he would be counselled and harrassed to attend more meetings, study, do more door to door service, basically kiss his ass for forgiveness.

He is a bad example, a bad association himself, he should be reproved, DA'd, or disfellowshipped. I'm sure he has been judge, jury, and executioner many times for this same situation w/in his congreg.

My best advice for you--RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.

WildHorses

Sorry guys, but I smell a rat! Three newbies at the same time? One wanting advise, one seeking to help, and one advising not to be here.

How would the one who knows the other apparently, know that he was here and follow him, only to warn him not to be here? It makes no sense to me.

I don't want someone in my life I can live with. I want someone in my life I can't live without.

butalbee

Lilacs--didn't catch that!! I only read the first post..........Good eye!

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