by Gojira_101 52 Replies latest jw friends
I can envision a productive future where she is called reguarly to the platform, responding to the speaker's questions about staying true to the course, and the terrible cost that goes along with this. She keeps a brave face for all and sundry.
I see her in a hospital bed, alone. The elders don't call. She gets one visit a month, from another poor sister in the hall who brings her the magazine. She is reaping the rewards from where she plowed her fields.
I hate to do a generic reply to everyone, but thank you for you words of support and encouragement. Tonight is the night, my dad is going over at 7pm, Mountain. I'm so dang nervous!
An update on my uncle, when he heard that all you need to be saved is believe is Jesus and believe in the ransom to be saved, he started crying. Whether you believe in God or not, I respect your beliefs, so I don't want to get into debate about that on this thread please. My uncle has always believed in God but since he left the WT, he has thought God was going to kill him. Now finding out how simple it is to be saved, he is ecstatic and he said he feels like a huge weight is off his shoulders. I think all of us felt that when we realized WT is not God.
Another interesting thing I heard from my dad. He had dinner with a long time JW friend last night and during dinner the friend made a few "comments" about WT and my dad point blank asked him if he knew about WT joining the UN and the friend just smiled and said "yes I do" So this long time friend of ours is an apostate! I nearly fell out of my chair! He said he is staying in to plant the seeds of doubts among the cong...the friend also said that there are about 4 people in his hall that are secret apostates. If the WT's only knew! I think it is great!!!!! I hope more people are waking up and realizing WT is a false prophet.
Thanks again for the comments
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Gojira's Mom here. Ok, I'm nervous now. Gojira is calling her Dad right now and giving him some of the thoughts & tips all of you have suggested. Thank you for your good vibes & prayers. We will let everyone know as soon as we hear anything. Uncle D had a friend of his come over and he goes to my hubby, "Show him, show him everything." Awesome. If anyone out there watches 2 1/2 Men, Allen's mom Helen is a twin to my mother-in-law. Selfish, Self-righteous etc. i don't mean to be negative about her, but Gojira is correct, she's scary. I told Hubby that he was putting himself thru this and she is not going to listen to anything. But you never know. We'll see
Village girl: Interesting point! I read something, I wish I could remember it was or find it again, but I read that a large percent of ex-dubs become Mormon. I have a friend who was raised a dub and she recently converted to being a Mormon and I asked her why, and she said because "their" beliefs make more sense to her, but some of the Mormon's beliefs are very close to JW beliefs. You know what I have a flow chart on how to pick your religion, I should post on here. it is just a joke, but it actually makes sense. I'll post it in a bit.
Sparlock: I'm thankful everyday to have my parents and husband. I see what this crazy cult does to people and families. I'm so glad it didn't take much for my hubby to wake up.
Xanthippe: You know that is an interesting point, it does sound like she is running scared. I'm just speculating, but maybe she has doubts but because she has nothing else, or knows no better, she is so busy with service and meetings, she is trying to squash the doubts? I actually just called my dad and shared this with him.
It's interesting I just remembered something. I think it was last year my grandmother was sick for about 3 weeks and she couldn't go to the meetings, she called my mom and told her "Since I haven't been to the meetings in 3 weeks I'm starting to feel like an apostate." I just brushed it off, but maybe she does have doubts. I hope she does!!!!
Pickler: OMG you have no idea how scary she is. My dad and uncle constantly say how afraid they are of her.
Since I just called dad, I also told him how everyone on here is praying/wishing luck for him. He was very touched and he goes "they don't even know me,"
I said: But the people on JWN know what you are trying to do and even though they don't know you, they still feel the pain of losing someone.
I'm thankful for your kind words and I passed them on to dad and he was very touched and I could tell he was choking back the emotions.
slightly off topic, but shouldn't it be crucifixion?
and yeah, it's the time when i already drank a few beers and should stay away from anything resembling a computer of some sorts.
Jgnat: The sad reality is, what you say is probably what will happen to her. She will die alone because she has shunned her family and sacrificed us (us, meaning our relationship with her) to the alter of the WTBT$.
I've said many times that the reason why the elders give her a shepherding call twice a yr is because they want her estate when she dies. They will be getting 1/3 of her estate when she dies. Well after tonight WT will probably get more cuz she will disinherit my dad. He doesn't care about any of that.
I can't wait to hear what happens. I am also looking forward to the day your dad starts posting. Why has he put it off?
About your grandmother, you never know. My mom, who was a total Governing Body follower immediately saw that this was not the true religion. We showed her the pyramid at Charles Russels grave site and a few choice quotes from "The Fiinished Mystery.". She was well into her eighties at the time, said she was too old to change religions, but at least we woke her up.
My dad has held off on posting until he can talk to his mom. He told me when he starts posting he doesn't care if people find out who he really is. My dad is the type he doesn't want to hide. If he's going to do something, it's all out in the open! That's one reason why I've held off my revealing some things, because we are all waiting for this moment.
I'm glad your mom woke up. I really don't have feelings one way or another if someone wants to stay a dub or leave. I get why some decide to stay in even though they know it's not the "truth" they stay in for family and if I didn't have a health probably that prevented me from going to meetings I would probably would have stayed in so I could have kept my grandma. But not much I can do about that then or now. I think just being mentally free is the important part and my opinion here, keeping faith in God and Jesus. I'm glad you woke her up!!!
Hey Gojira, I'm on the opposite side of the world to you, just got up & looked at your thread, I'm so proud of your family (and I know I don't even know you) but....I'm off to yoga & I'm going to think positive for your family for 1.5 hours....good luck to you all!
Ok, Gojira has used up all her posts for this 24 hr period so she asked me to do it for her.
I need to do a quick, condensed bio so that the topic of the discussion will make sense. Grandma has never had time for our daughter Gojira. The last time Gojira & her Hubby went over to Az they asked her to go to breakfast with them Sat morning. Couldn't, service is more important. Gojira fixed a family dinner the time before that and G'ma couldn't make it because she had to have a massage. So sweet Gojira has had her heart broken by this woman for 29 yrs. Gojira wrote her a nice respectful letter, about a month ago, asking her what she had against her. [Her only grandchild]
That being said....It didn't go the way as planned. Hubby was all prepared to tell her all about TTATT.
She made a pizza and asked him to say a prayer and he goes "I would love to, but I use the name Yehwah since in my research I have found out that 'Jehovah' is an invented name by Catholic monks in the 13th century."
Mom: "I don't want you using that name in this house, so you just say your own prayer."
After dinner she starts telling him about this client she has [She a CNA and does like Hospice home visits] She tells him that this man wanted some food with meat in it since his wife is a Vegan and refuses to fix it for him. So Grandma fixes him these meat dishes for several weeks when she goes and he never thansk her. So it starts making her mad. So she finally speaks up and asks the patient. "When you were growing up, didn't your Mother ever teach you to thank people for doing something nice for you.?
Hubby: "So that really hurt you because he didn't even acknowledge the effort and nice thing you did for him.
G'ma: "Yes it did! I was hurt and angry."
So Hubby starts reminding G'ma of some of the things she has done to Gojira in the past and how it really hurt our daughter.
G'ma: "That's between me & her."
Hubby: "No, she's my kid and you've really hurt her and it hurts me to see her crying and upset when you can't even make the time to see the kids when they were over here visiting friends & family."
Dead silence
Hubby: "Matt 18 says that if you know of someone that has something against you, that you need to go take care of the problem. If you don't your sacrifice, all that service & meeting attendance means absolutely nothing."
Dead silence
Hubby: "What have you got against my daughter?
He took his bible and laid it in the middle of the table and thumps it hard "Do you even believe this is God's word?"
G'ma: "Do you really want me to answer that?"
Hubby: "Yes, I do! Do you believe this is God's word?" [taps the cover again]
Dead silence with a very stubborn, hateful look on her face.
Hubby: "Well then I guess I better go. I love you Mom, but I just want to tell you something that you're not going to like to hear. One of these days the illusion will catch up to your reality, and your reality is going to be changed." Hugged her and left.
Hubby said he didn't even feel like trying to tell her anything about TTATT, because that look on her face was so demonic that he just wanted to get out of there. He said that it scared him because he's never seen his mother look like that.
All I can say is WOW
