there isnt any god ! i m wondering how can people still believe in a fiction created before 4000 years by some shepherds in the f**ing desert .wake up guys
Is it disrespectful to call God by his name?
by BU2B 39 Replies latest jw friends
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LouBelle
"if you need a name, then it shows that 'god' isn't in you"
Satanus I agree with that statement - I believe we are 'god'
While I was questioning near the end of my time in that faith - I also wondered why we'd have to call god by his name Jah - surely he knows me as one of his children, and when I have a sincere conversation with my mum or dad - I call them mum or dad and not by their first names.
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mP
TEC:
who He is, when He tells Moses His name. The God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob.
How do you know that Abraham did not know His name? Just because He was referred to by a title El Shaddai (God Almighty, God Most High), does not mean that Abraham did not know his name.
Peace,
tammy
mP:
El Shaddai = god of the mountain, El Elyon = God Most High.
Most names of Gods are titles, even Jehovah is a statement or title ,thats the style of anmes in the middle east. Exodus 3 makes it quite clear, that Moses is learning Gods name for the first time, and that Abraham knew God under a different name. If Abraham knew, and passed the message on, then Moses would already know the name Jehovah, but he does not.
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WTWizard
It is disrespectful of joke-hova to deprive me the freedom to attract the opposite sex, or to expect me to do its will when it will cause hardship for me. Therefore, I don't give a fxxx about disrespecting that thing.
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still thinking
You do realise that Zeus means "God". Originally it was pronounced more like Deus aka Dios and so on. Its just an archaic form of the word...mP
Mr Zeus or Mr God then...LOL
How about Sir?
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yadda yadda 2
How many scripures in the NT can JW's point to where God is addressed by his 'name'? Show me just one.
Jesus never once used it in prayer.
Paul never used it either. Even in his famous speech at the Aeropagus, one of the greatest witnesses ever given, Paul didn't bother to use any name to identify the one true God to all those gentile listeners. Because, as Mp said, YHWH was the God of the Jews, and Paul was preaching to the nations. No gentiles would have converted if they had to use Jewish words such as Yehowah for God and had to use Jewish letters such as the tetragrammaton. It would be like JW's today pronouncing Jesus as Yahshua and only writing his name in Hebrew characters. Everyone would think they're completely bonkers (hmmm, mind you...).
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Chariklo
It has always seemed to me that anyone believing in ultimately one God, the father of all Creator of all that is, from the Universe to the smallest microbe, then, just as mankind has many languages, then inevitably any name will be in different languages.
To that extent, then, all religions believing in one God who made everything must by definition believe in the same person.
They may believe different things ABOUT him; that's another matter. Even religions that seemingly believe in a pantheon of different gods, when examined, may express those beliefs as one overall God whose many attributes are expressed in different ways or forms. That is the case with Hinduism. Even in Christianity, God is expressed at times as the ground of our being, very akin to Buddhism, as I understand it.
Christianity is expressed through an understanding of God as Three Persons, for the most part, though some express their understanding differently. Especially Jehovah's-Witness-ism.
For the most part, I find no great difference between my own orthodox Catholic beliefs and those of others whose love for Christ reveals very little difference from me.
If there is one God, then there is one God. He doesn't speak French or English or German or Hebrew or Tagalog; he speaks everything. He is boundless. Eternally the same, now and for ever, but each is dear to him, which isn't a blanket approval for doing anything.
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Rob Crompton
bsmart said:
"Regards the word Abba, I have been told it is an intimate term, more like "Daddy" Can anyone verify this?"
This is commonly stated among many Christians but I believe it is mistaken. The word "Abba" has a range of meaning and whilst it is true that in one usage it was sometimes an intimate form of address, at the other end of the spectrum it was term ofthe highest respect. At the time of Jesus "Abba" was beginning to be used as a title for the most senior rabbi and I believe it is this usage which Jesus objected to. Among rabbis - teachers - all should be regarded as equals and the term "Abba" should be reserved for God alone. So when Jesus addresses god as "Abba" he is not calling him Daddy, he is addressing his as the supreme spiritual leader - i.e. as god.
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Jeffro
Call god anything you like until he personally tells you otherwise.
If he does tell you otherwise, call a psychiatrist.
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Room 215
Why does the Great Be-All and End-All, Source of all Matter, Energy, the Universe, etc. Uniqueness Personified, need a Name at all? A name implies the existence of peer gods from which Yahweh needs to distinguish himself; is a vestige of monolatry, then polytheisim.