To my friend Mr. Flipper, Thank you for bringing this thread back. I'm only able to check the site very rarely and I'm glad I checked today because as you and all the other posters on this thread have correctly pointed out: the WT is responsible for the lives they destroyed with their purposefully deceptive 1975 prediction. I remember that time very well as I was 14 at the time. I remember and still have all the books and magazines and km's that promoted the 1975 lie: the so-called "truth book" "mans salvation out of world distress at hand" book, the "life everlasting book", the "god's kingdom of a thousand years has approached" book, the WT of 3/15/1969 page 171, which said, "Do not pursue higher education. There is very little time left! Make pioneer service, the full-time ministry with the possibility of Bethel or missionary service, your goal." Another book that falsely promoted the lie of 1975 was the "paradise restored to mankind by theocracy" book. As has been mentioned there are so many references that promoted and predicted the 1975 lie. I was a 3rd generation witness and I remember hearing my parents talk sometimes about people who left the borg when the 1975 lie was proved wrong. My father was an elder and although he and my mother were always faithful witnesses, they never actually sounded negative when they talked about some family friends who left. They had more of a curious tone when speaking about the situation. But of course the indoctrination that all of us experienced is what won out. As for me, I was too busy going through my teenage stuff (girls, clothes, cruising at conventions with my jw friends, discovering parties, etc.), to have really cared that much at the time. But I know and remember that the 1975 lie caused massive dissension and my family knew people who were disappointed and left and were subsequently called "apostates" when they rebelled against the 1975 lie, when that year passed and there was no "Armageddon". And I hope that newer witnesses are reading this thread. They just have no clue about what went on in the past. They are just not integrated with the watchtower society's past publications that prove beyond any doubt that the corrupt watchtower society manipulates the bicameral tendencies in people in order to enslave people mentally, get their money and resources, so that they, the wt, can perpetuate their easy parasitical lifestyle. Out here in New York City, the borg has the rank and file sitting and standing with big picture displays and large tables filled with literature in every major subway station in the city: Grand Central Station, 34th Street Pennsylvania Station, 59th Street Columbus Circle. 14th Street Union Square, Roosevelt Ave 74th Street in Jamaica Queens. These displays are provided by the watchtower society and they are out there almost every day, and in several locations within the same subway subway station. This started about 1 1/2 years ago and I have been told by the jdubs that this is a new initiative started by the borg. Of course, hardly anybody pays attention to them. They end up just standing there for hours looking sheepish. And when I see them, I just sigh and say to myself:" if only they could integrate their minds with the reality of the wt, such as with the 1975 lie, they might actually start to think for themselves. OR MAYBE NOT! I really do hope that current witnesses, new or old are reading this thread. IF YOU ARE A CURRENT JEHOVAHS WITNESS AND YOU ARE READING THIS,PAY ATTENTION TO ALL THE COMMENTS HERE! DO SOME RESEARCH IN THE OLDER PUBLICATIONS MENTIONED BY EVERYONE ON THIS THREAD! WAKE UP AND THINK! OR AS THE WACKY PACKAGES FROM THE 1970'S SAID: THIMK!!!!!!! Thank you Mr. Flipper for starting this thread about one of the watchtower society's most corrupt deceptions