Anyone here drunk the wine or ate the bread at the Memorial?

by biometrics 21 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  villagegirl

  What I find discouraging is that even the people who have left the WT

  Still cling to the false doctrines the WT teaches.

  The people here on this site, are terrified to think

  of themselves as part of the Body of Christ,

  or annointed, and they persist in the idea the

  communion/ eucharist/ partaking of the bread and wine, is

  restricted to 144000.

  Even though the number is symbolic 12 X12 tribes, spiritual Israel,

  picturing the Grace of God on all mankind,

  Jews and Gentiles, as one flock.

  Even these people, on this forum, who have left the WT

  cannot grasp the idea that Jesus Christ offers them

  union with Himself, to dwell in them and to be

  one with Him.

  The WT has completley separated them from Christ,

  with its doctrines of "classes" , heavenly class, earthly class,

  faithful and discreet slave class, they are cut off from Christ and

  this is the greatest evil this Watchtower Society

  "discreet slave/governing body" does to people's hearts and minds.

  They destroy the hope Jesus Christ died to bring to them.
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  transhuman68

  I agree 100% villagegirl.
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  NeverKnew

  PREACH you two!!!! *grin*

  Matthew 23:13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in.
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  villagegirl

  neverknew - Mat 23:13 thanks for that, what a perfect scripture to describe

  exactly what the WT teachings produce:

  you can see it here on this forum.

  The WT produces atheists, who have been

  so badly spiritually beaten up they have

  lost any love they may have once had for God.

  They leave angry people, who are still leafing through

  old Watchtower magazines, and quoting them in lengthy

  posts as if somehow they will figure out the "riddle" of the WT doctrines.

  They leave so much hatred, and that spills out to

  produce mockery of Jesus Christ.

  Look at the lashing out and anger that is

  on the memorial invitation defacements.

  What we need is HOPE , LOVE , PEACE and TRUTH.

  None of which will ever be found by re-hashing old Watchtower

  teachings as if they contain some "Special Knowledge"

  Jesus came, broke down the wall between Jews and Gentiles,

  empowered individual people everywhere to have

  direct access to God and Jesus with no "channel" or

  "mediator" except Jesus Christ himself.

  John 14:18-2418

  “I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

  19 Yet a little while and the world will see me no more, but you will see me.

  Because I live, you also will live.

  20 In that day you will know that I am in my Father,

  and you in me, and I in you.

  23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word,

  and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and

  make our home with him.

  24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words.

  And the word that you hear is not mine but the

  Father's who sent me. (John 14:18-24, ESV)
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  Finkelstein

  I was asked by my brother to go, but I told him Naaa still an atheist by heart.
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  NeverKnew

  Fink and Village: I just posted on this at http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/249827/1/Is-he-waking-up

  Fink: Given all that I've learned in the last year and a half, I could easily see how one would throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater. I accept you and I can't even be mad at you for it.
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  Finkelstein

  Just because one takes the stance of being an atheist doesn't mean disrespecting the theological teachings of Christianity.

  Secular humanist ideology mostly steps in hand with Christianity when you really think about it.
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  tec

  There is NO reason to think that partaking is limited to the 144 000. That is an entirely made-up and twisted doctrine. The 144 000 is Israel... combined with the great crowd that no one can number.... makes one people and one hope.

  "I am the bread that came down from heaven that ANYONE may eat and not die."

  "Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of MAn, and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them."

  I went and I did partake.

  Peace to you,

  tammy
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  rebel8

  Hell yeah.

  One time I whipped out a napkin, tucked it into my collar, sprayed some Cheez Whiz on the crackers and had a snack.
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  prologos

  Here is what the sequence was in the bible: All the invited drank and ate the meal. It pictured forgiveness of sins and union with Christ.

  Later SOME received the promise of the kingdom rule.

  All were baptized

  All partook and

  later a few were anointed and

  continued to partake with everybody else

  WT reps did not count all partakers (perhaps billions)