by OUTLAW 447 Replies latest watchtower scandals
and the 1000+ added are at fault. And the AWAA OPP STD group is not at fault. Wow it doen't take long for a golden calf to march in and get worshiped does it?
The credibilty of this corporation is likely down to zero now, with the exception of a few apologists. Oh well, old habits die hard sometimes don't they?
cantleave,
That is so much malarky, you can't get a bus back to malarky!
zed
Wha happened it's not about any golden calf, its about people stating things as fact which patently are not fact.
"Wha Happened -FFS Get this through your head - THE GROUP IS SECRET NOT OPEN!"
We all know that. But the thing is...what did this secret group do to protect its secrecy? Did they fail in some way?
We know a lot of people were outed, so, yes, they failed!
wha,
Are you, me, Simon, Dagney and Fibberwidget the only ones speaking English? I am so underwhelmed I cannnot even put it into adequate swear words.
zed
Part of the problem is that the people who are trying to explain what happened didn't understand what they were doing, the ramifications of certain actions, didn't use the right terms (which makes me they they also didn't understand them) and confused the heck out of everyone, including themselves.
According to Juan's post on page 2:
Then I noticed as I scanned through the names that one person in particular seemed to be referring the majority of these unknowns. At that point I brought my concerns to the attention of the other advisors and the officers of AAWA. Their first reaction was that this was not necessarily a bad thing.
Notice that he freely admitted that even he (Juan) had expressed his concerns about people being outed. He makes it perfectly clear that the board at AWAA was delighted at this and thought that it wasn't a bad thing. The publicity for the group clearly overrode any concern for any damage this might cause others.
At that point Bo had to make a decision about what to do with our Facebook page and we all agreed to let him just go ahead and make it "open to all."
Now we have an admission that this was indeed now an 'open' group. Not 'closed', not 'secret', but 'open'.
It was only after we took that step and the whole affair became news here on JWN that we started getting complaints that some of those people who had been "referred" or "recommended" to the site were unhappy that someone had done that without their knowledge.
It was only after the group had been created 'open' that this blew up into a PR mess for the AWAA. It's still not clear what happened afterwards, but it became only closed or secret after it was once 'open'. It might be secret now, but it was open before and that's what all this fuss is about.
For what it is worth, I think Juan is the only one here that is giving us any clear and honest answers, and he deserves to be commended for that. The same can not be said concerning the behaviour of others involved in this.
"Let me ask everyone, could anyone have made a clusterf*ck worse than this group did?
zed"
Well, nothing is impossible...but this is the worst I have experiensed in the XJW-world.
It's pathetic that some people doesn't realize that the AAWA is fucked up with this failure.
But there is good people in the AAWA.....so, they have the possibility to close this thing down and start something new. I hope they have learned the lession to shut up about thier actions and organisations then.
c*ntleave, (I prefer my optional spelling that would get me banned)
I do what I can. My real friends know that. I have been around for a long, long time. So eat me. Bonjour!
zed
Yes, Las Malvinas.......I agree, I also think that juan Viejo has been the truthful one.
