2013 Watchtower, July 15 - CHARTS for discussion
by bats in the belfry 48 Replies latest watchtower bible
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sir82
Discussion?
How about a 5 word discussion?
What a load of horseshite!
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breakfast of champions
The usual stupid patterns:
WHITE silhouette = GOOD
BLACK silhouette = BAAAD
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JeffT
Meaningless. Time intervals have neither dates nor specificed lengths.
There will be a length of time between now and the date at which some future event occurs.
Look I'm a prophet!
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DATA-DOG
Maybe I wasn't paying attention in class, but since when are the remaining anointed ones raptured to Heaven? I noticed that they could have combined the 2 charts for " clarity ", but in typical " Proclaimers Book style " they broke it up to avoid making anything too clear...err..you know what I mean...
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frankiespeakin
I think this whole chart is crazy and show the extent of the delusional hokous pokous going on in the heads of the GB. I can't think what is crazier the chart or the bullshit in the paragraphs.
I think the charts are made just to add a nice picture to a rather boring and confussing WT study. These guys on the Governing Body really need to get a grip on reality or they are going to have all the mental hospitals filled with severly depressed Jehovah's Witnesses.
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bats in the belfry
The first chart, under the heading The Last Days, it used to be
1.) one generation, then
2.) two-generations (overlapping)
Now they seem to be pushing for 3.) "The Last Days of unknown length"
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sd-7
I think the charts are there just to simplify the information. There's enough dates in these articles to confuse, I would say, most JWs. It's not that they're stupid, just that this is a very detailed set of information. The not-so-studious kind will be completely stumped and just hope to get a comment in. The charts are sort of like...in any textbook, really. You sum up the big points.
The wheat and the weeds--there seems to be a bit too much wheat amongst those weeds. I would expect a lot less.
But...not really a whole lot to be said about the charts. It seems like they could have been more colorful, maybe had paintings of people in them. This looks like you could do it with Powerpoint. But that's no big deal, really. I can imagine some JWs will photocopy the charts and maybe even lay them end-to-end or make a display board with them for Family Worship.
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prologos
looking at the last period in the WHEAT and WEEDS :
Why is it that WT shows the BLAAACK Weeds going to heaven? and not the GOHHLDEN Wheat on the left? (arrow software does not work at 45 degr. angle)?
NEW light that will delight quiwwelers: There will be no anointed Armageddon survivors (unlike what was taught before) , they are up-up and away "shortly before" the end (or beginning.)
so the chosen ones of Math:24 are the ones of Isaiah 65. building houses, changing diapers.
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DNCall
I believe this is the first time the WTS has abandoned the idea that there will be some of the remnant left on earth to lead the Great Crowd into the New World, much like Joshua led the Israelites into the Promised Land. This new timeline requires all of the anointed to be in heaven before Armageddon begins. Some on the board have already described this as the rapture.
I wonder if the WTS will abandon its tortured logic regarding the verses in 1 Thessalonians 4 that contrast those having been asleep in death with those who survive to Christ's presence and will be changed in the "twinkling of an eye." If memory serves, the interpretation was that contextually, Paul was talking about death and so a person's being changed would have to be preceded by his/her death.
The web becomes more and more tangled.