Who is the "True God of the Bible" ?

by Phizzy 123 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Julia Orwell
    Julia Orwell

    Hey lost, what is the truth you've found? I'm interested in finding truth, if it's to be found.

    Also, the NWT has been acknowledged as a good translation of the Hebrew texts. It's when you compare its translation of the nt Greek with the Greek that it falls flat on its face AMD falls into obfuscation and outright changes to support the Jw bias. I did the research myself on it at bible.cc.

  • *lost*
    *lost*

    Paganism (www.patheos.com)

    Paganism represents a wide variety of traditions that emphasise reverence for nature and a revival of

    ancient polytheisitic and animistic religious practices.

    Some modern forms of paganism have their roots in 19th century European nationalism (including the British order of druids)

    but most contemporary pagan groups trace their immediate organisational roots to the 1960's, and have an emphasis on

    archetypal psychology and a spiritual interest in nature.

    AR*CHE*TYPE

    an original model or type after which other things are patterned. a prototype

    ARCHETYPAL

    representing or constituting an original type after which other similar things are patterned

    ''archtypal patterns''

    FIRST preceeding all others in time or space or degree

    ARCHETYPE (MERRIAM WEBSTER DICTIONARY)

    definition.

    1) The original pattern or model of which all other things of the same type are representations or copies.

    Prototype. Also: A perfect example

    2) IDEA

    3) An inherited mode of thought in the psychology of C.J.Jung that is derived from the experience of the race and is present in the

    unconcious of the individual

    ar*che*type noun (medical Dictionary)

    1 a) a primitive generalised plan of stucture deduced from the characters of a natural group of plants or animals and assumed to be

    the characteristic of the ancestor from which they are all descended.

    b) the original ancestor of a group of plants or animals.

    2 ) an inherited mode of thought in the psychology of C.J.Jung tha is derived from

    the experience of the race and is present in the unconcious of the individual.

    primordial image, character, or pattern of circumstances that recurs throughout.

    Carl.J.Jungs theory of the collective unconscious.

    Because archetypes originate in the pre-logical thought, they are held to evoke startingly similar feelings in reader and thought.

    ORIGIN OF ARCHETYPE

    latin, archetypum, from, greek archetypon, from neuter of archetypos

    archetypal, from archein + typos, type

    First known use 1545

    synonyms

    antecedent, ancestor, daddy, forego, forerunner, granddaddy, precursor, predecessor, prototype.

    Autonyms

    descendant

    related words: model, original, originator, sire, father, moher

    Near Antonyms

    by-product, derivative, off shoot, out growth, spin-off, daughter, son.

  • Fernando
    Fernando

    One thing I am sure about - it is not the one whom the Watchtower "ruling religious clergy class" follow - not the one whose evil spirit inhabits these Pharisees (spiritual whoremongers).

  • mP
    mP

    There is no one god in the Bible. Jewish religion just like Catholicism adopted many other gods and made them their own. Samson was a sun god, the name means sun in Hebrew, and the story is filled with astrological solar imagery.

  • JWB
    JWB

    In my opinion TTGOTB (as depicted in the Hebrew scriptures) was lacking in basic morality.

    1) He condemned the whole of humankind, on account of the actions of two people.

    2) He particularly targetted women for punishment, by making childbirth literally a pain and put them at a disadvantage by making them 'crave' men who would 'dominate' them.

    3) He condemned descendents on account of what their forefathers did ('sins of the fathers visited on the sons').

    4) He sometimes required that one should not feel pity towards children but put them to death on account of the actions of their parents.

    5) Apart from one occasion, where an angel was reported to be involved, he required that human beings do his work of butchering other human beings.

    Seems to me the most likely origin of this immoral person was the mind of someone who 'had issues'.

  • mP
    mP

    JWR

    What you observed is true and easily explained. God is a proxy for the male heirarchy of societies in the middle east back then. God wants kings and priests at the top, and men rule women. God like kings and priets doesnt care about the welfare of slaves, and hes actually pro slavery. God writes books about protocols of priests, what they can and should wear, what they must receive from the locals, but of course doesnt care about womens equality.

  • JWB
    JWB

    mP, thanks, you explained it so well.

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro

    *lost*:

    Paganism represents a wide variety of traditions that emphasise reverence for nature and a revival of ancient polytheisitic and animistic religious practices.

    Your chosen definition of 'pagan' isn't a 'dictionary definition' of the actual word, but rather, a selective usage of the term Pagan (capital P) as it has been used in relatively recent history, attributed to groups involving 'nature-worship', since the 19th and, particularly, 20th centuries. This is not the same as the word pagan, for which I've already provided definitions.

  • *lost*
    *lost*

    mp - why does it say in the Bible 'story' that there were no kings, but the men themselves wnated kings to be like the other nations ?

    jeffro - I must of missed your list on paganism ? are you denying the history of paganism as it doesn't correspond with the dictionary definition. do not words contain much more than a basic bland definition, eg thesarus.

    gosh, we better burn all them history books and classic literatures, maybe we'll end up under a totalitarian rule after all, should of just let Hitler have his way

    dictionary definition og je-hovah, gods name.

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro
    I must of missed your list on paganism ? are you denying the history of paganism as it doesn't correspond with the dictionary definition. do not words contain much more than a basic bland definition, eg thesarus.

    It's "Must have missed". Anyway... as previously stated, the 'history of paganism' you asserted is a very modern application of the word, and not the earlier actual meaning of the word pagan. In any case, even according to your preferred definition, that kind of 'Paganism' isn't really much different to the origins of the story of Israel's god anyway.

    gosh, we better burn all them history books and classic literatures, maybe we'll end up under a totalitarian rule after all, should of just let Hitler have his way

    And Godwin's law strikes again.

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