The Watchtower's 'Lost Generation' (page 3)

LB

God never changes. Only organizations pretending to speak for God change.

Never Squat With Yer Spurs On

Xander

See, this is what I mean...we start pointing out the hole's in Mav's arguments, and he just disappears.

I'm hoping he's away from the computer or something - JT summarized my points very well Mav (indeed, they are points he's made before me).

What do you have to say?

Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)
A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana

bluesapphire

YoYo:

You said, "Unfortunately, many Witness parents are only dedicating 1 hour (if that) to their family studies, while Satan and his Demons are dedicating 24 hours a day to bringing them down."

Maybe you should write to the GB and tell them that the congregations are having this problem and that they need to allow parents to count more than 1 hour a week to their family studies. Also that the moms can count the time too even if the dads conduct.

I'm sure since the scripturalness of counting time is the clear motivating factor in "theocratic service" that all these parents will begin turning in larger amounts of "service" hours and that also they will begin to study with their kids instead of knocking strangers' doors.

THIS will SURELY solve the problem. And let Satan lick his wounds.

rebelledat12

Yeah, I definitely think that JW should spend more time studying the bible with their kids. Yep, then there wouldn't be ANY kids that make it past the teen years in the "truth". Please, my parents crammed that crap down my throat for hours a week and let me tell you, I turned out WILD. I'm surprised that I'm even alive today. It wasn't until I was about 20 that I started to calm down. After the constricting hold of the jws, I couldn't rebel enough. So in my opinion, it's not Satan that had his hold on me, it was the witnesses. There were three kids in my family and only one is still a witness.
And if you ask me, my window washing kiss-ass brother is the worst of us three. He uses profanity, lies, borrowed money from my df mother and sold my sister a car that didn't even run and now he won't give her the money back. When my mom confronted him about the money, he decided to enforce the jw rule of shunning, after making off with almost two thousand dollars of my sister's money.

JT

Big X says:

<i>I'm hoping he's away from the computer or something - JT summarized my points very well Mav (indeed, they are points he's made before me).What do you have to say?
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i would like to know as well
james

Sunspot

It IS really mindboggling, the AMOUNT of books ALONE each week that are supposed to be studied, underlined, etc for each meeting,

HAVING to know all the tracts in your servicebag inside and out in case someone at the "doors" touches on a subject that might be IN one of those tracts(gotta be prepared),

HAVING to be totally familiar with(even down to what PAGE a specific illustration is located on, so you don't fumble around looking for it)all the brochures that are churned out,

Being EXPECTED to know every article in every one of the magazines you carry, as well as HAVING to study and underline and prepare ANSWERS for the Watchtower Study,

TRYING to finish the current yearbook before the next year's edition is due,<grin>

HAVING to read-study-underline the current Bookstudy book,

AND the TMS guidebook,

And the "All Scriptures" book,

And prepare the "home study" if you're the "spiritual head" of your household.......(well, you get the picture, and there are SO many MORE) all published by the Watchtower Society, and ALL as I mentioned,are expected to be read by the JWs.

At Ecclesiastes 12:12, it says, "As regards anything besides these, my son, take a warning.To the making of many books there is no end,and much devotion to them is wearisome to the flesh."

Do you active JWs honestly look FORWARD to preparing for the many meetings, HAVING to study and underline answers? Or do you personally find it wearisome and repititious? (and secretly deep down wish that they would "lighten up" on ALL this, and that you could just skip it most of the time when you're dog-tired from the regular day's routine?

Just something to think about......

Read Matthew chapter 23 (especially verse 4) and SEE the strong parallel between the WTS leaders and the Pharisees that Jesus had no "use" for......

God never changes. Only organizations pretending to speak for God change........LOVE that, LB!

I don't recall HOW MANY HOURS the bible recommended for families to study.
I do know MAN made a rule on time however.
Let's see.....10 hours a month for field service
1 hr. for family study
1 hr. to study watchtower together
At least some bible reading every day
Study for the school....study for the service meeting...study for bookstudy...personal study,
1 hr. if you have a study (usually way more)
Read the daily text, read all the magazines....and any new book, read the yearbook..............

You just might have time to get to know your family and friends and have some time to relax if you play your cards right.

Yes....these are required by Jehovah , if we are to be spiritualy strong, and well grounded in the truth for that soon top come FEAR INSPIRING DAY in which only those who are doing a good job at the mentioned REQUIRMENTS will endure.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Gumby, I kinda ran with the ball on what you said (blush) but I was dicussing this same topic in a couple of places yesterday, so I cut & pasted my other post. It bears repeating anyway, the way I see it! LOL

Dontcha get TIRED just seeing in print, ALL the "studying" we did? SHEESH!!!!!

Thanks, Xander for these:

*** w65 6/1 352 Questions from Readers ***
but it is all a part of the advancement of Jehovah's theocratically controlled organization under the immediate direction of Jehovah God himself.

*** w64 5/1 277-8 Building a Firm Foundation in Christ ***
It is through the columns of The Watchtower that Jehovah provides direction and constant Scriptural counsel to his people.

Very good thread, folks!

hugs,

Annie

Xander

sun...thank the 'quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com' site - great resource.

jt - block the letters in. [ i ] [ / i ] or [ b ] [ / b ](without the spaces)

mav - HellooOOooOOOOoooo....

Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)
A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana

gambler

I totaly agree jeff,they do nothing for the young people.I have gone to many congragations and they all have lost my generation,the gen Xers.And they will continue to lose every new generation because it is a stagnet sect for intolerant old white men.

Sunspot

sun...thank the 'quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com' site - great resource.

Gotta check THAT out!!!!!

Thanks AGAIN, X!

hugs,

Annie

LDH

Luckily for the WT, the generation that's still there (our parents)
can be manipulated by guilt. So they'll hang on to believing it was their fault we left the truth.

You'd better believe there are parents in every congregation begging Jehovah for the answer to the question "Where did we go wrong?" every night in prayer.

As far as Mav not showing up; it's ok guys. We're not really trying to convince *him* of anything; a fool is born every minute. But everytime he opens his mouth and inserts his foot--- SOMEONE is lurking and takes note...

(Hey I sounded like NYT. "Lurkers take note" LOL

Lisa

The Watchtower's 'Lost Generation'

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