Would it be too cruel to..............

by Amelia Ashton 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • Amelia Ashton
    Amelia Ashton

    Yesterday I had a real blast from my past turn up un-announced on my doorstep. She bumped into my daughter (who has rejected me) in Sainsbury's, took her to lunch and got my address from her. She claims she has been searching for me ever since she discovered I was back in the UK.

    She is a disfellowshipped sister who was described by one of our elders as a wagon. ie, she needs pulling every step of the way. All coffees enjoyed together at her house or mine I was allowed to count as time!

    She goes to the memorial, gets the magazines but clearly doesn't read them and believes every single word spewed out of the GB's mouth. The only reason she has not tried to get reinstated is because she wants the freedom to live her life without any restrictions but "will go back" one day.

    I talked about various doctrines/flip-flops etc and although she didn't believe me she made it clear she will not bother researching anything I have said either but still defends even the slightest criticism. I was exhausted after a few hours and let every point go when it was clear she did not want to hear what I was saying.

    She has invited me to dinner next Friday but I don't want a repeat of yesterday. We have not been "friends" for almost 10 years but I don't know if it is possible to be friends with some-one so opposed to my views and my new friends who I care way more about than any from the KH as I don't think she even wants to know ttatt.

    Do I cancel Friday?

  • 20yearfader
    20yearfader

    i would it seems like talking to her is a pointless as talking to a wall.you know the bad part is that she is so close minded i can deal with stupid and someone that knows they are stupid but when you don't even want to entertain a discussion on the topic,i have no use for you,you guys havent been friends in 10 years i say lets go for 20 and beyond....

  • Comatose
    Comatose

    Not listening to ttatt but staying DFd is moronic. It makes no sense. It's one of the dumbest things I can imagine.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    Come up here instead! We rarely argue......

  • Amelia Ashton
    Amelia Ashton

    Cantleave, you know her and her family!

  • Kojack57
    Kojack57

    Amelia: At least you gave it a gallant effort to help your friend. Even though she has been out for awhile she still can't bring herself to research about the BORG. Something drastic has to happen to your friend to help her see the need to investigate, sad to say.

    But I agree with 20yearfader that at this point it's a waste of your time, she will only drag you down and make you frustrated. Live your life and be happy.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    REally!!!! PM me

  • Amelia Ashton
    Amelia Ashton

    Cantleave, I have sent you a message via facebook chat

  • jeremiah18:5-10
    jeremiah18:5-10

    Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, is she initiating religious conversation or are you? If she invited you for dinner in spite of your contrary views, wouldn't that indicate that she's willing to accept you for who you are instead of for conforming your views? Or is she wanting to try and change your views and convert you back to the jw's? If not trying to concert you, isn't this the kind of acceptance we all long for, to have freedom to have our own views and still not be shunned. She should have the freedom to hold her own views too. Can you accept her despite her views? Again maybe I'm misunderstanding, please explain.

  • Amelia Ashton
    Amelia Ashton

    It is complicated.

    She only knows I haven't been to a meeting since being attacked and have suffered severe depression ever since.

    Here we know that means I am a successful 4 year fader but I am guessing she does not know that expression.

    It feels like she wants me to get her back to the KH and of course there is no way that's going to happen.

    So far she has initiated JW topics and I have told her I doubt their reasoning and "facts" as they have changed so much over the years. She disagreed with me so I then quickly changed the subject.

    She is unaware of any doctrinal changes and still believes the 1914 generation is still alive and therefore Armageddon is really soon. I did try but she isn't hearing.

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