taboo

by teejay 23 Replies latest social relationships

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    Abaddon,

    Thanks for your insightful comments.

    He isn't someone who talks about deep things. He has a short attention span (a real concentration problem sometimes!) and tends to want a conversation to "move on" rather than cover all angles. He is dyslexic and I think that might have something to do with it. Words are just not his thing and he will often use the wrong word in the wrong place, etc.

    Saying that, we can talk all night about 'nothing'. The only trouble I find is that he gets ultra bored if I try and talk about something deep, and if I put an "argument" across, he sees it as an attack! E.g. he was telling me about a program on time-travel. I suggested some obscure theory on time and said that their theory didn't sound right to me. He immediately said, "oh ok well I wont tell you about it then if thats what you think!" I tried to explain that I wasn't attacking, I was just giving an opinion.

    He tells me that he's worried that I might meet someone who is "intellectual" and prefer them over him.

    Funnily enough, he says that he prefers me to other women *because* he can talk to me and he always found it a lot more difficult with them! Maybe I draw him out well.

    I have been a little worried about the fact that there are a couple of people in my life who I'd much rather go to for advice and deep conversation. :(

    I love my B/F though, and he's great. The fear of abandonment that I have is gradually lessening. I hope he can be trusted, I wish I could fully trust him. He never does anything suspect! lol.
    I'm feeling heartened by your suggestion that communication improves. I think that I need to learn how to draw him out even more and see how that goes.

    Sirona

    ** http://www.religioustolerance.org **

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    The thing with him feeling attacked when you give an opinion sounds like me. It's good that you try to make him understand you were just giving an opinion, and you need to carry on doing this. Try to diffuse the tension; sit in his lap, give him a kiss, and say "that's just my dumb ass opinion dumb ass, I'm not attacking you, I want to know what you think and you do not have to agree with me", then jump off, smiale, and ask him if he wants a drink... or something similar.
    I know it sounds lame (and, it is) but we are merely mortal men.

    He is possibly reacting to a mother/ex-girlfriend ideation of you being someone who has to be right (and who is unpleasent when proved wrong). You just get lumbered with his reaction, which hasn't really got anything to do with you at all, you just happen to have breasts and be expressing an opinion, so you get a pre-conditioned response. Doing something like that described above will confuse him (affection, she's not mad), reassure him (telling him it's just an opinion, equalising your opinion with his reaction), and then leaves him to, probably, say something later on, as you have given him a break by fixing a drink where his poor little man head can work it out. I know, I've been there...

    Alternately, he might just not have a decent arguement to put accross, but not want to loose face. Or he might feel tounge-tied, and be embaressed by this, not wanting to look stupid.

    Not liking loosing discussions is a difficult nut to crack, as is someone who feels tounge-tied - but, as I say, it can be worked on.

    Being in a relationship is like picking up two rough pebbles and carrying them in a pocket. Eventually they will knock all the rough edges of each other and be smooth.

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    I will try that!

    Being in a relationship is like picking up two rough pebbles and carrying them in a pocket. Eventually they will knock all the rough edges of each other and be smooth
    I really like that!

    Sirona

    ** http://www.religioustolerance.org **

  • teejay
    teejay

    PLH,

    ...now i'm living alone, learning to be content with being alone. not sure i'll ever be happy alone but content will be good enough i think.

    This is a very “JW” issue. (Just curious: Where you raised in the truth?) Most JW kids go from living with their parents to living with a mate, spending little time in between if they can help it. Single people are single generally because they can’t find someone to marry. There are exceptions to this, of course, but that’s what I’ve seen.

    It’s also truer that females raised in the religion, in general, spend little time living alone. They go from Daddy’s house to Husband’s house. Or, they leave home and get a roommate. Very few of the JW women I’ve known ever spent much time living by themselves. Safety is an issue and brothers have the option of Bethel or moving to where the need is greater. Women can do those things, too, but it’s not as common.

    this was so me when i was with my guy! i was a jealous freak and so afraid of losing him ... this relationship was far from perfect but he did not run around on me. so i learned to acknowledge my emotion and then think about WHY i reacted the way i did.

    It’s very good that you are as introspective as you are and see that some of the problems in your relationships are within your power to control – that it’s not always “somebody else’s fault.” However, don’t ever think that feelings of jealousy are always wrong or “only in your head.” I’m not really the jealous type anymore, but when I felt those feelings it was usually for a very good reason. Unless a person is really insecure, feelings of jealousy are a clue that something’s either going wrong or already is. Honest talk usually settles it one way or the other.

    the close relationship part does not or would not bother me but spending a ton MORE time with someone than your significant other that easily could be a sign there might be a problem.

    That’s what this whole thread is about, Harm. Just wanting to spend more time with someone who’s not your boyfriend or husband is, not a “problem,” but a clue that it may be time to move on. The idea that one person can satisfy you in every way for a lifetime is crazy. Some are lucky (or choose very well) and find that very thing, but that’s not the norm. The hope of finding “my one true, life-time love” is based on the notion that marriage was created by a god that meant grown folk to live that way. If you believe in god, then that tends to define your view of marriage.

    I've come to believe that if they are alive in every way, people change and that change is not necessarily bad. People in a relationship grow, often in different directions and develop new interests that sometimes conflict. Forcing someone to do something or like something that is not in them to want to do or like is ridiculous. Unless there are offspring in the mix, I don’t see the end of a relationship as a failure. Why go thru all these mental, emotional, psychic (even physical) contortions, "working" to make the relationship last, when you could be happier and more fullfilled living w/ someone else? Or alone?

    You said that you’ve spent time trying to figure out what went wrong with your “failed” relationship. I say, “nothing.” You just saw the need to be elsewhere. It’s like having a job that you once liked and now, you don’t like it anymore and want to do something different. Jobs are a lot like people. Just because you quit one job and move to another doesn’t mean you are a failure. It only means you have changed, and as I said, change doesn’t equal “bad.”

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