How do I get the COBE to pay back the money he and his ripped off from my ex-wife, he's the guy who claims he make's Pedophiles Holy by YHWH's power!

by PhilsWager2 20 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • PhilsWager2
    PhilsWager2

    The COBE of the local Kingdom Hall never paid my ex-wife for the work done because they promised they would use "trade" to reimburse close to $5000 worth of work. As you can imagine nobody here would like him because he believes all the Pedophiles can change their ways after the Child Sex Offenders have proved their humility by bowing before the Judicial Committees.

    This is how honest Jehovah's Witnesses are, they changed her work from a 1200 sq. ft Granny in to a 2200 sq ft. house the County Inspector, he some how missed 1000 sq ft over overbuilt home! They prayed to their god the Tax Agency and County not see all their Illegal Building, Jehovah answered their prayers because the County Inspector was sick that day and ran through their house without catching it!

    Using back tax methods I can prove the COBE owes at least $40,000 in back taxes to the County and Franchise Tax Board, should I report them? The Statue of Limitations don't apply to owing State Taxes, one big company tried to sneak in a building buying it and not reporting the purchase to the State and local municipalities. Company XYZ got slammed, they had to pay back the State for 13 years and the Whistle Blower got screwed out of his reward because the State never honored their arrangement.

    Should I put up fliers telling everyone his business will also help them evade taxes like him and his cobe-wife have done for decades? Could I help the public better understand how a Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Hall leader and his wife have no problems stealing from the Government! They both were the first to attack Candace Conti and have the highest regards for pedophiles who will confess their sins before a judicial committed because that's proof they changed! The husband and wife are sociopaths, they take the local pedophiles in Field Service and travel together because that's the type of people JWs are!

    When did I change my attitude towards this locally known JW Pair, when they started attacking the victims of Sex Offenders like Candace! Locally her husband was vicious to another two victims because the Pedophiles were his friends, they are very twisted people using this religion as their base! I will never forget the day her COBE husband said "Candace Contii would lose her lawsuit and if she won, she was in the wrong because at her age she should have told a adult or probably enticed him. He was looking at her current photos and based his statement on them, not the child who was molested!

    So how do my Ex-Wife's money back from psychopaths like these, lovers of pedophiles and thieves? I wrote all this background because it's not easy going the correct route and this bitch who promised us money. Their evil and I am willing to do what it takes to get her all monies owed, SOL have expired but do Jehovah's Witnesses have a Statue of Limitation on Stealing? Should I write to Bethel and tell them everything I told you except their love of Pedpohiles?

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    Its all a little vague to me at this point. If there is a written contract, even if the legal statute has run out, it is something you could bring up to the elders-if you think it would do a darn bit of good. If you do think they would address this, then do it, but if you're expecting actual results from them, you kinda need to play by their rules-be very clear, be very polite, bring up scriptures whenever necessary to condemn whatever it is that happened. If he is breaking laws NOW, then just tell the local tax board (or whoever) and let them deal with it after that.You did your civic duty.

    If your ex isn't going to pursue this against the elder dude, there is no chance that the elders or org will ever effectuate any correction. Men get off from pedophile charges when no one will testify because they are "brothers". So, just don't get your panties in a twist about any of this when it is actually out of your control. Help your ex if she wants it, but recognize the limitations. Report to govt, and then forget it.

    Not sure what your relation is to the cong/org now, but if you're persona non grata, then just help the ex in a silent partner kind of way or you will hurt her more than help her.

    Its saturday. Do something fun. Forget this stuff for now.

  • JakeM2012
    JakeM2012

    This is a little fuzzy to me, but if your wife has performed work on a house and have not been paid, you can file a Mechanic's Lien" in most States. It doesn't matter if it was for trade or not, they (the owner's) have not paid. It shouldn't cost any money to do file a mechanic's lien, lawyers are not needed and most contractors are used to the procedure. It may take awhile to recoup your money. An owner of property can ignore those pesky mechanic's liens until they try to sell, then it will come up when the title is researched. You would get your money when the property is closed.

  • rip van winkle
    rip van winkle

    How do you keep getting in the casino , twice-flushed Phil?

    I bet there's more to this story. I'm not much of a gambler but I would know when to hold'em, fold'em, walk away and when to run. However, I think you should roll the dice and spin the wheel. You've got nothing to lose.

    Hope this helps.

  • DarioKehl
    DarioKehl

    If revenge is more important to you than the money, hire a licensed private investigator.

    Once a PI finds something (and they will if this guy is doing anything shady), you will anonymously send copies of the findings to every elder and at least 3 local media outlets (with a bogus return address--even better, drive across state lines and mail it from far away).

    Pour some sweet tea, sit back and watch. I have done something very similar to this and no one suspected me as the whistleblower. The effects were profound and satisfied my need for revenge. There is no sin at all in revenge, my friend, especially when your target is a powerful hypocrite who always escapes justice. Toppling the dynasty of a sociopathic COBE may be well worth the missing $5,000. Hit him where it hurts: his social life, his marriage and his reputation.

    (I'm aware this makes me sound like a sociopath. So what. Vengeance is cathartic and as long as you do nothing illegal, there are excellent ways to satisfy that itch. Good luck.)

  • SimonSays
    SimonSays

    Once a PI finds something (and they will if this guy is doing anything shady), you will anonymously send copies of the findings to every elder and at least 3 local media outlets (with a bogus return address--even better, drive across state lines and mail it from far away).

    (I'm aware this makes me sound like a sociopath. So what. Vengeance is cathartic and as long as you do nothing illegal

    Well I hope you’re not from the USA. In the USA it is illegal to falsify mailing address since the anthrax scare of 2001. Just because the mailman doesn’t tell you, it doesn’t mean it won’t be scrutinized by Homeland Security. It’s easier to get someone else in trouble other than oneself. People get away with many things until they get caught. The first thing they say, Well I didn’t know, and I was told I could. If you have a legal problem, then seek legal counsel. It’s better than having to pay the price for malice and slander (Defamation) in the end.

  • PhilsWager2
    PhilsWager2

    They are the reason we stopped attending meetings, me and the ex-wife were told to "wait on Jehovah" until the point we lost ourselves and suffered attacks of anxiety and suffered major episodes of depression because we thought they must be doing Jehovah's will and performing some "greater good" making up for all his oppression throughout the Circuit. That's how cognitive dissonance works, your presented with irrefutable facts and you deny them because its easier to think "it's you and your family's fault" than entertaining the cold harsh truth that "Waiting on Jehovah" in these circumstances are not only unchristian, they distance yourself from God because he gave you enough information along with a brain to decide it's time to leave!

    1"To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: The One who holds the seven stars in His right hand, the One who walks among the seven golden lampstands, says this: 2I know your deeds and your toil and perseverance, and that you cannot tolerate evil men, and you put to the test those who call themselves apostles, and they are not, and you found them to be false; 3and you have perseverance and have endured for My name's sake, and have not grown weary.… (Revelation 2:1-4)

    Weymouth New Testament
    For men of this stamp are sham apostles, dishonest workmen, assuming the garb of Apostles of Christ. (2 Corth 11:13)


    GOD'S WORD® Translation
    False prophets were among God's people [in the past], as false teachers will be among you. They will secretly bring in their own destructive teachings. They will deny the Lord, who has bought them, and they will bring themselves swift destruction.

    After reading all the experiences everyone here went through it was obvious Jehovah was not going to fix this problem because if he was really in that Kingdom Hall the harsh conduct and great contempt these Elders had for the little ones, elderly and widows would not glow so bright with their dark hatred! Every-time people asked for long standing problem solving from our impotent Body of Elders they were terrified to take a stand, the only time they took a stand was when the evil was spoken against the Watchtower. You could have Witnesses cheat, curse, lie, fight, fraud, steal, molest children, and curse Jesus and that's not enough to get them thrown out, I saw them beat the DF system by using legalism. The only way I will get her the money owed is by exposing them and their business and bringing up how this wicked man stole from his creditors and mooched her in-laws for two years, they treat their in-laws with such contempt because the older ones refuse to sink to their Satanic lifestyles. Why intrigues me is this COBE and his wife don't read the BIble, their knowledge of a book they claim brings life is childish. The majority of people on JWN know more about the Bible and read more publications than these thieves who steal from people that allow it. We allowed the Watchtower to tell us if we spoke out against elders, "Even if their wicked, you act like King David did when Saul was God's holy king appointed on earth", I wonder if they don't believe in God because their conduct is screaming out to God for punishment, are people like this deluded enough to think their works will save them from their wicked conduct?

    http://biblehub.com/galatians/2-4.htm

    GOD'S WORD® Translation
    False Christians were brought in. They slipped in as spies to learn about the freedom Christ Jesus gives us. They hoped to find a way to control us.

    Douay-Rheims Bible
    But because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privately to spy our liberty, which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into servitude.

    Darby Bible Translation
    and [it was] on account of the false brethren brought in surreptitiously, who came in surreptitiously to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage; (Gal 2:4)



  • PhilsWager2
    PhilsWager2

    I saw him and his wife today standing out in front of Starbucks basking in the radiance of their own self-righteous glory. Drinking their $5 double-carmel machiatto along with his pedophile pioneer partner they smiled not noticing I was reading a newspaper in my dark shades and hat. They scoffed at a fund raiser that teenagers were doing to help pay for the expenses of a two-year old girl who died in her sleep. Imagine the great witness those Starbuck Witnesses gave (It was 10:15, Field Service meeting started at 9:30, usually you get on the road around 9:50 to 10:00 AM if your dragging your feel or doing the Pioneer Shuffle.) as they stood outside patting themselves on the back for a "Job well done!" For almost a hour they stood and drank their designer coffees, when did Field Service begin, they count their missionary service standing outside a Starbucks while teenagers are working their butts off to help the local Little League coach pay for burial expense.

    These are the people who ripped us off, how can they think God appreciates their pseudo field service? I think the teenagers doing coming together helping a coach with limited funds, now that refreshed my faith in humanity, not fakes pro-claimers of God"Three Witnesses and a Pedophile" I appreciate your ideas, if only things worked like the Watchtower said, "during the New System people's state of drawing close to God will be easily observed, those who are doing good would return to their age of thirty, those who practice evil and hate would get older! Imagine how many fake followers of Jehovah would need portraits like Dorian Gray to cover up how corrupt they truly are, I doubt I will get her that money yet if I can let the people know how bad they are, that's justice enough!

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury
    How many poker player phil accounts do you have here?
  • The Searcher
    The Searcher

    PW2 - You are sitting in a room where a fire has started. You have choices:

    a) decide if you can handle it yourself, then do so.

    b) if you can't, then call the experts who can & will deal with it effectively.

    c) get out of the building, let the fire continue doing its worst, and try to forget it.

    d) stay in the room, do nothing but complain about the fire, and let it consume you and everything else until it burns itself out.

    It's your choice. Maybe there's another way.

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