by God_Delusion 29 Replies latest jw experiences
Instead of trying to prove to her that JW isn't the one true religion, she should be trying to prove to you that it is by answering the questions that she currently uses trickery to avoid.
Every time she uses a diversion, let her know that you know she tried to fool you and, if possible, use a question to get her to compare her tactic to something you have heard her trash 'false relgion' for.
Read about the Plymouth Bretheren. My Grandfather was disfellowshipped from them for marrying my (non P.B.) Grandmother and was shunned for the rest of his life. There were no P.B women to marry so finally in his 40's he married out of the "lord" and had the book thrown at him. His family never saw any of his 6 children although they lived in the same village. His sister was disfellowshiped for going to see a movie while she was visiting the " Big City " she was apparently spotted by someone who knew her, coming out of a movie theater in the 1940's. My Grandfather took her in and helped her make it. JW's think they are so original....they're not.
This information is fantastic guys! Cheers.
I'll let you know what she says. She's at the tipping point and I can see her swaying. This might be the nudge that tips her over the edge.
Warm regards,
Jaymes
And don't forget to love bomb her! Lots of filial affection and attention for mum. Jws love bomb to get you in, we can love bomb to get you out.
actually the Seventh day Adventists do go to war its estimated they have about 4000 soldiers on the front line in Irak and Afganistan. The SDAs also have their chaplans in th US army to guide and comfort those doing military duty.
Their is also a pacifist moveing within the church that has allways been there.
I attended Quaker meetings for a brief period. They are present in progressive circles
I was quiteimpressed with their character. The same is true of some RC groups.I
The Church of God, (the Armstrong guy)
Yahweh's Restoration Ministry
Hi,
I've heard of the Christdelphians. Also, the Unitarians, but I heard they always have many extra activities & want folks to volunteer. I do understand the not going to war..War never solved nothing, as we have seen. It's the gov't attitude they have that kind of annoys me....no voting...Many here may have not been born in the depression time, but there was a time when the Gov't didn't do anything for anyone..Your neighbor would help you..if they had it...well the depression came & we could not help one another because nobody had anything to share...Well, after the depression, Gov't stepped in & we stepped away from helping our fellow man...we pushed away from the table...at one time you could go to a neighbor & borrow or ask for a cup of flour. Now folks tell you, well there is welfare & gov't cheese lines.
If the Gov't stepped away, all of us would be up the creek without a paddle. If you lost your job, no unemployment, got sick & couldn't work, no disability, if you reached an old age, got to keep working, no social security, if you fall on bad times, no welfare...& I could go on & on..This is how I see this situation.You call a friend to say, hey come help me make a chocolate cake, you answer, well, you know how I feel about chocolate, allergies, makes you fat, etc...so the friend says ok, no worries..I do understand, but you can come to dinner, the person comes to dinner & eats, then here comes the chocolate cake, & the very person who would not help you make it, helps you eat it...So, the witnesses can't help choose the right candidate but can enjoy all the fruits that the gov't has to offer...
Most witnesses are sickly, whether it's in their minds or real, but if you suppress all the spiritual food & don't agree, your body is bound to turn on you. Most of them really don't want to work and doing God's work is the best excuse they have, or they have an attitude, something for nothing..
Have you ever heard witnesses say, this or that is soooo expensive...So one day I told a sister....listen we don't celebrate nothing, so we should have more money than most...so what do you think you are not supposed to pay for nothing with the money WE DON'T SPEND..she had to agree. Like folks say, Gas is so expensive, well if you really think about it, gas is the cheapest thing on a car. Let something break down, it'll cost you more than gas.
Just remember, most witnesses are afraid to leave the org. they serve Man with fear....they fear man more than God. Even though they see the flaws, they have created their world around the org. They don't have any life outside the Hall...that is their life so that is why they can't accept another way or place of worship.
Again, I will stay there, until I can't take it no more..soon my friend soon..
Legacy
Jaymes, Hubby and I are going through the exact same thing with my MIL. She is old, frail, mentally impaired etc. She worries about our being inactive but won't shun us bc she needs me to do things for her. (Selfish right to the end!) When she starts to "Witness" to me I always quote a scripture that refutes what she has just said. My favorites are direct quotes from Jesus himself or my favorite, "Do NOT put your trust in earthling man to whom NO salvation belongs". It shuts her up every time! LOL Still, her response becomes an almost hysterical "But I KNOW it's the truth"! At this point I've always backed down knowing this social club is all she has. I love the idea of asking HER to prove it if she pushes me to far.
This is my first post after lurking on the forums for a year or two.
I've been studying with various JWs, from the Live Forever, to Knowledge, and the Bible Teach book. There was always something "off". I thought being outside would be being closer to the Creator for example. As I look back, they had the truth, but it was a watered down version, and with heavy handed doctrine. Yes, there is a love, but more of a conditional love . . . for those on the path toward baptism. Thankfully I was a welcomed "attendee" and had raised my hand and made good comments.
Just the name, Jehovah, warrants a look. Accurate knowledge leads to not Jehovah, not Jesus, but instead "stops" at Yahweh. Deeper still would be the Latin YHUH (or YHWH) and finally at Yahuah (or sometimes Yahuwah).
So similar religions would use the more accurate knowledge of His name and his son that came in His name. Since Jesus is a Greek translation of a Hebrew name, a better transliterated "sounded" name would be Yahusha. Look on the internet and you'll see congregations or assemblies that use the Father's name and/or Son's name. Also look for Messianic.
I've made a list of assemblies and knowing your state I can post a few links of nearby assemblies.
