Islam's hatred and agenda against black people (page 5)

SixofNine

I consider Arabs to be on the black side of the skin debate.

Well Lisa, I'd guess your in the minority on that one.

Iqbal Rahman is my hero. Maybe someday Islam won't be so slimey and bloodthirsty that critics of it have to write under pseudonyms.

LDH

Hey Six,

I found a great explanation of ALL the differents classifications of Semites here:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13706a.htm

and the first paragraph opens with this statement:

The term Semites is applied to a group of peoples closely related in language, whose habitat is Asia and partly Africa. The expression is derived from the Biblical table of nations (Genesis 10), in which most of these peoples are recorded as descendants of Noah's son Sem.

So I guess, even some people who come from Africa don't want to be considered BLACK unless they absolutely have to, huh?

The rest of the article (I hope you read it) convinces me even further that Arabs are merely "light-skinned blacks" for lack of a better phrase.

As far as Iqbal Rahman writing under a psuedonym to preserve his safety: I hope somebody will tell the other critics of Islamic Extremism, especially the ones that appear on TV!

So sorry if I've insulted all the Arabs who would WAAAAYYY rather be white than black. (NOT)

Lisa

LDH

I find it baffling that in your collective ignorance you have found a way to accept that:

1. Whites can be VERRRY dark! (But they are still whites!)

~~but~~

2. Blacks can't be light! (If you have one drop of black blood, you are black!)

And also how "Offensive" it is (hyghlander's words) that Arabs could be called blacks.

My god,

you are fools to believe that it is an insult to be called BLACK.

You bristle at the mere suggestion that anyone that isn't dark as coal is black.

How SAD. The article is perfect for you.

Lisa

amccullough

Who are you talking to? I think you have become delusional.

LDH

Who are you talking to?

Obviously YOU, as you are still here reading

I think you have become delusional

No, the word is dis-illusioned.

What a sad excuse for a black woman you are. One step above NYT. Go read Jet.

Lisa

amccullough

No, the word is delusional. Go buy a dictionary, or better yet, maybe you can travel through England and become an expert on the English language.

You are right, I am a sad excuse for a black woman....especially since I'm a honkey and have a peepee.

LDH

It was a JOKE, Andrew.

For whatever reason, you have had a beef with me since THE FIRST DAY AND YOUR FIRST POST.

* http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=20120&site=3

Which leads me to believe that you're not who you say you are, either.

Lisa

As to it being an insult to be called black, well really it is taken as an insult by some. But then again if you called a Zulu warrior a Maori warrior, he would probably consider that an insult. For me the only insults worth noting, are if someone calls me an Anglo, or tells me I am like my father. But even though I note them, they are no more than mere amusements. The one is not true, and the other is probably true on some level.

As to someone being from Africa being black, well there have been various tribes that live in, and perhaps are indigenious to Africa, but are not of the 'black races' as people are wont to categorize them. Myself, I define race far more intricately than mose people do today. I do not consider there only being four races, but literally thousands. As far as looks go, I appear similar to many anglos, particularly in america where we have a great deal of mixing. On the other hand I have a distinctly Irish look. The same with middle eastern peoples, they have a distinctly different look, than those of various African tribes. And many of those African tribes have distinct looks.

We have turned this into a slashing back and forth of Ad Hominems. I do not doubt you have been to the middle east. I also do not doubt that the Lebanese people that I know, are nearly as light skinned as me. I do not doubt that the fella who wrote the article was not specifically trying to claim Muhammed was European, but I also do not doubt that many, including you, could garner that understanding from the way he wrote it. Perhaps a better choice of words is in order.

Perhaps we can say this....Such and such is known about Muhammed based on such and such. But this, that, and the other is unknown because we are lacking this or that evidence. His appearance is unknown because, while art did exist at the time, in fact great works of art, no portraits were made of him, nor were any coins, statues, or other likenesses made. I think that has to do with Islamic law perhaps, though I am unsure. On the other hand perhaps Muhammed, Like Moses, and Jesus, is entirely non-historic, and simply an amalgamation of older mythos.

In any case the question to the choice to convert to Islam for a black, or any other colored person, I think we all agree, should be based upon either the veracity of its claims, or the benefits to the one converting. For me, even the issues of polygamy, and the allowance of it, are not enough for me to convert, based upon the other, more weighty aspects of the religion.

Let's see, three wives, seven concubines, nine slave girls, and twenty-seven black nazi female body guards. I've only got forty-five women to go and my cult is complete

LDH1

Perhaps we can say this....Such and such is known about Muhammed based on such and such. But this, that, and the other is unknown because we are lacking this or that evidence. His appearance is unknown because, while art did exist at the time, in fact great works of art, no portraits were made of him, nor were any coins, statues, or other likenesses made. I think that has to do with Islamic law perhaps, though I am unsure. On the other hand perhaps Muhammed, Like Moses, and Jesus, is entirely non-historic, and simply an amalgamation of older mythos.

Amen, and Amen!

the choice to convert to Islam for a black, or any other colored person, I think we all agree, should be based upon either the veracity of its claims, or the benefits to the one converting

DOUBLE amen!

And Screw the race card politics because as you say--there is NO OBJECTIVE evidence available....

Some famous prophet, eh? Not even ONE sculpture of him.

At least those dumb-ass black Egyptians knew enough to make likenesses of their pharoahs and gods, LOL!

Lisa

Hyghlandyr

LDH

The likenesses of the egyptians and their history is another topic entirely. I do not hold to the orthodox (christian or secular) viewpoint that only about 6 to 10 thousand years ago humans got educated. There is a rising debate to this concept, and the ages get pushed back further and further. Even the egyptians themselves say that they inherited their culture.

I agree about Muhammed being so famous and no art of him existing. I would have expected someone to have done something. Maybe someone did, I have not researched it. I do know that the art of Jesus is often conflicting, and exists hundreds of years after his purported existence. But I think you have perhaps figured out by now that I would accept belief in Yahweh before I would in Jesus, since a god might be unprovable, but a man should not have so much evidence against his existence.

Let's see, three wives, seven concubines, nine slave girls, and twenty-seven black nazi female body guards. I've only got forty-five women to go and my cult is complete

Islam's hatred and agenda against black people

you are fools to believe that it is an insult to be called BLACK.

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