Joanne never liked me, anyway.

by LDH 37 Replies latest jw friends

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  jst2laws

  Lisa,

  You know I'm not a newbie, but I'll comment anyway.

  You said "I don't give a crap who likes me or not" was a lesson that took me too long to learn. For decades, even as a brother with responsibilities, I was too easily upset when fellow elders who disapproved of my decisions (sent my wife to college, helped in home births, home schooled our kids). I finally adopted a philosophy, "I don't give a damn".

  A few years ago my daughter got a navel ring and gossip went all over the circuit and district, even to near by states, though no one had really seen this navel ring. She was upset, I was under the gun, but I tried to teach her "I don't give a damn". Like me, she was too dependant on the approval of others.

  Now we are all fading and really don't 'give a damn'. But I admit that is conditional. We all have people in our lives we care about and we do not want to disturb them. For those we love, we give a damn. But all those small minded, self righteous fundamentalists we used to live with can just take a hike.

  Jst2laws
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  COMF

  I taught my children at a very early age, if we aren't buying it, we don't touch it.

  It's so obvious that it's still a surprise to me to find people who don't grasp it. Things in stores are not community property. They are put there so that people who want them can exchange money for them. It doesn't matter how clean your children are; if you aren't buying, they have no business touching. Certainly, nobody else will be buying it during the time that your child is carrying it around. And, the snotty-nosed kid with the chocolate on his fingers is going to see your kid and want one, too.

  COMF

  Come, fill the cup, and in the fire of spring
  Your winter-garment of repentance fling:
  The bird of Time has but a little way
  To flutter--and the bird is on the wing.
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  jst2laws

  Comf,

  Come on man! This isn't an issue of respect for retail merchandise or little kids dirty hands. It was about human interaction. "Put it back", especially if said in the hearing of the child, was harsh, apparently a display of anamosity toward the mother at the cost of a child. No retail clerk should do this.

  As Lisa says: "Some people don't like you and they don't have to have a reason!". That's all.

  Jst2laws
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  expatbrit

  I like everyone. No I don't.

  Expatbrit
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  COMF

  Come on man! This isn't an issue of respect for retail merchandise or little kids dirty hands. It was about human interaction.

  Lisa's issue was about human interaction. I brought up the issue of respect for retail merchandise, since it is relevant in her story.

  "Put it back", especially if said in the hearing of the child, was harsh

  Agreed, and I doubt that the store manager would approve of the situation being handled that way. I expect Lisa is right that their already strained relationship prompted that remark. However, there would have been no opportunity to make a remark if "respect for retail merchandise" had been displayed by Lisa.

  As Lisa says: "Some people don't like you and they don't have to have a reason!". That's all.

  No. That's not all. Continue talking about the person not liking Lisa, if you choose. It's not an issue to me. I was talking about something else--a related matter.

  COMF

  Come, fill the cup, and in the fire of spring
  Your winter-garment of repentance fling:
  The bird of Time has but a little way
  To flutter--and the bird is on the wing.
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  teejay

  Lisa,

  I always wondered why I didn't like you. Now I know.
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  teejay

  Just kidding. You cool.
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  teejay

  Didn’t read the thread before commenting. I gotta get out of that habit.

  No I don’t.

  COMF,

  I guess you’ve never been grocery shopping, picked something up with the full expectation that you would buy it, changed your mind, and replaced it on the shelf. I have.

  I know the intent is different—you fully intended to purchase and Lisa had no such intention with the toy—but the act is the same. You carry around an item that you don’t eventually buy. Or maybe YOU buy everything you touch (handle) in stores. If so, you inhabit a very exclusive group.

  Btw, if an employee “told” me to put something back... uh... they’d hesitate to “tell” anyone else anything ever again. The customer (in Lisa’s anecdote “Lisa”) is king queen. The customer is always right and their needs are foremost.

  Finding ANY fault with Lisa in this case is stretching it, imo.
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  jst2laws

  COMF,

  I was talking about something else--a related matter.

  Understood and agree.

  Also agree you taught your children a valuable principle about not touching what does not belong to them.

  Question remains, since it is not a merchandizing law not to touch merchandize unless we plan to buy, was Lisa wrong in allowing her child to hold the bear?

  If it is only a principle and not a law violated, why did the retail clerk make such a harsh judgment and her subsequent demand?

  I think we agree on the important issues as well as the minor ones too. I may have misunderstood that you were condemning Lisa for allowing her child to hold the bear.

  Jst2laws
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  SixofNine

  If it is only a principle and not a law violated, why did the retail clerk make such a harsh judgment and her subsequent demand?

  Good question Just2. Let's start our study with a discussion of that question; do you have your wt index handy?