by Simon 80 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
killing 184 000 in one night,
IN ONE PLACE? big deal, these were sodiers.
How about I ANGEL in ONE NIGHT sorting out, via BLOOD on the DOOR, researching family records who is firstborn (including animals) and then killing them, innocents in all of Egypt from the ASWAN dam to Alexandria, a long place.??
where were the bronze age Nueremberg Trials when we needed them?
Prologos: i mean they have stopped offering any details re. The non-theological issues surrounding the ark such as c14, how animals arrived to the ark, which, etc etc.
ofcourse i may be wrong, havent read the article
bohm, yes, this in the "faith" book an "obey and be blessed" affair.
No showing of good glues for the ark, carbon dating, the embarrassment of equal age for ark and the Pyramids of Egypt.
Wt probably wants to weed out the BRIGHTS.
Prologos: i stand corrected!
When I was a child in the early 70's, the JWs were saying the earth was older than 6,000 years. They said creative days were figurative. They could be much longer. I thought I grew up with 6000 years, maybe it was 7000. But the reason for limiting it there is obviously to make a nice 7 day week.
6 days of creation, a day of rest, then armageddon and paradise. The assumption being that the time from "the fall" to the "new world" was also the length of a creative day. Get away from that and say creative days were several millions or even billions of years long and you can at least sidestep some of the obvoius contradictions with science.
Haven't read anything recent, but they may be trying to keep mum on the details. Setting numbers always gets them in trouble. Whether it's lengths of creation days, the length of the "Gentile Times", 6000 years of man's existence ending in 1975, or the length of a generation. Just be more vague.
And I've never met a JW who thinks the tall tales mentioned in the bible didn't happen.
Creative day.... Did it never occur to anyone that there is absolutely no reason for an almighty god to be tied to an exact number of days? What logical sense does that make? Gods days are 6,000 years long. What a goofy idea. God had to be tied to creating things all in exact time periods. He didn't take longer for some and shorter for others. Nope. Very exact these rules god was bound to before there were rules.
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6 days of creation, a day of rest, then armageddon and paradise. The assumption being that the time from "the fall" to the "new world" was also the length of a creative day.Get away from that and say creative days were several millions or even billions of years long and you can at least sidestep some of the obvoius contradictions with science.
Huh, is that right? I thought God supposedly took a day of rest off between the account of the creative days mentioned in Genesis 1-2 and when Genesis 3 picked up the story again? In other words, doesn't Genesis 3 commence AFTER God's day of rest?
But if what you say is so, then God technically is violating his own day of rest in the many accounts mentioned in the Bible where He interacts with humanity (eg writing the 10 commandments on Mt Sinai with his finger, etc), or at the very least ordered the angels (who had helped participate in creation, as members of the Divine Elohim) to violate Heavenly Sabbath?
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When was the last time the Wt. or Awake ran an article trying to prove the Ark and the Flood. Have they just resorted to using these legends as teaching/sermons.
confusedandalone-hahaha! I never thought about all those foxes just standing there, waiting for their tails to be tied together with a torch between them and for all of them to run the same direction. It made for a wonderful mind picture, thanks! As a kid, I was outraged that he would do something that mean to foxes...didn't think that one through, obviously!
It never made sense to me why Samson kept going back to Delilah after she kept saying 'the Philistines are upon you' and she had done something like braiding his hair. Couldn't he figure out she was on the take from the Philistines?
I wish they would run a new article on it. It would be so easy to pick it apart.
I think they are at the stage with the flood where they don't have to "prove" it to the average witness. I don't think they would ever touch the subject with a ten foot pole at this point. There is no upside for proving it, and just possible fallout.
