Girls Playing Sports (good or bad idea)

by clash_city_rockers 72 Replies latest jw friends

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit
    bi-sexuality is still sexually and morally devian, because of the homosexual nature of the other half of bi-sexuality.

    This is opinion, not objective fact.

    You can do a statistical body count in which homosexuals have done more carnage to young boys thatn your kind would like to fess up to. If we did a body cound it would be very embarissing for the gay agenda and it's atemps to make ligit the gay lifestyle.
    Again: where is this evidence?

    (Oh, I'm not sure what "my kind" is. If you're implying that I'm gay, that is another erroneous assumption, and I have an hour of smooching on the sofa with my very female wife earlier on to prove it.)

    Maybe later one tonight I'll count up all from the Roman Catholic site and the Silent lambs site and give a running total.
    Make sure you explain: a)why these samples are representative of the population as a whole, b) how you know in each case given that the paedophile is a homosexual (def.: a person with an ongoing attraction to adults of the same sex), and c) why your conclusions are objective and untainted by your religious biases.

    Expatbrit

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

    btw...while you do that I'm off to bed. It's 11:30 pm here. I'll look for your response tomorrow. Have a good 'un.

    Expatbrit

  • DakotaRed
    DakotaRed
    But what the culture of this wicked age has turned something as wholesome girls soccer or softball or what ever has turned into. I am wondering when was the are when your girls played?

    My daughters graduated High School in the early 90s. Currently, one is 27 and the other 29, not all that old. Neither gave up an ounce of feminimity to play sports nor did they get swayed or corrupted by it.

    You sound like the age old complaint that if you allow homosexuals around children, then they are naturally going to teach the children to be homosexual. Doesn't happen, buckwheat! I was more concerned that some hetero teacher would get fresh with them than if a lesbian teacher did.

    Last I heard, they, the homosexual community, doesn't hold open house to recruit new members.

    If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

  • clash_city_rockers
    clash_city_rockers

    Dekota,

    If you where listening to what I was saying.... Listening is half the conversation You would remeber sir, that I didn't assert that all girls will be lesbians who play high school or college athletics, even though they are becomming more and more a hot bed of lesbian activivty. That is the call for consern.

    Let me give you an example of what I mean. San Fransisco is a hot bed of homosexual lifestyle. This does not mean that all in San Fransisco are gay. I am trying not to make universal affermatives on this point.

    expatbrit,
    are you suffering from myopia?????
    When man has sex with another man this is homosexual activivty. That is a fact not an opinion. Let's say John Doe bum-chugs Jim Doe, John Doe after the act can not call what he did straight sex as if it where with some chick from the oposite sex like if it where Jane Doe. He has to call it like it is gay homosexual sex. Straight up that's the facts. Don't try to redefine words or reconstruct thier meanings.

    chow,
    jr

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    clash_city_rockers,

    If I remember correctly you are the 'cut 'n paste' expert that once referred to me as a liar? Well Clash, the liar read your post and it brightened his evening. Thank you, although to be honest Monty Python did it first.

    I cannot promise that I will ever take you seriously, but I am willing to try. You might help me by explaining what you mean by these statements :

    I think this is one of the best articals on the subject that is full of wise counsal and I hope you too can benifit from this artical that has a cultural impact and hopfully restoration in it's ramifications.
    This one contains five spelling errors and makes no sense grammatically.
    All are welcome to give thier take on the matter in this round table discussion on parents raising thier daughters who may be athleticly gifted.
    This statement though a grammatical quagmire can perhaps be understood, and it only has a problem with three spelling errors.
    I thought you where much more capable of responding to those whom you might disagree with in a civil manor. You dont want to give testomony of the barbaric nature of athiest discorce. Please give thought to the issue and give an intellegable and thoughtful response. Don't let me down I'm hoping that you will reflect deeply on cultural issues, I do believe you have means of such reflection and would incourage such responibility in our interaction.
    This statement of course is plagued by spelling errors, seven to be exact, but its firm and passionate tone leads me to believe that you actually believe the nonsense that you pasted at the entry to this thread.
    Billygoat, trying to be hip to ad populum remarks spoke in the reaffirms 6 in all the fullness of worldly wisdom and the folly that it is deeply rooted in.
    This statement especially interested me, of course it made little sense grammatically and though it tried to insult two persons in one thread it actually highlighted the lunacy of the one insulting rather than his targets.
    But what the culture of this wicked age has turned something as wholesome girls soccer or softball or what ever has turned into.
    Uhhh!
    If I had a daughter first thing I would do is name her Geneva after John Calvin’s home town but the second thing is I would get her first Barbie and Easy Bake Oven and pretty dresses to get her acquainted with here feminine role before I would buy her a soccer ball or softball.
    Frankly Clash, if you had a daughter, even John Calvin would spin in his grave in panic.
    as you put it think that it would be save 4 thier own kids to be baby sat by a lesbian???????? reductio........
    Uhhh!

    Look I will not go on with this. I am just trying to let you see why the only person who takes you, or your views seriously on this forum are your good self and that mottled mirror in your bathroom.

    Yes, I know I am an anti-Christian atheistic, ant-Calvinist, degraded, morally bankrupt, licentious, parasite and a…..liar.

    Best to you Clash - HS

  • clash_city_rockers
    clash_city_rockers

    hillary_step,

    I do remember you and also I wouldn't be so boastfull of your skills as a gramerian. In Autiting your work I see that you would greatly benifit some refresher classes. I would be profitable for you to seek out the local community college in your area to update your skills in the language of the American people.

    hugs, kisses and squeeeeeezes,
    jr

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step
    hugs, kisses and squeeeeeezes,

    lol...thanks Clash, but are you sure that you have cleared this with Calvin?

    Best - HS

  • DakotaRed
    DakotaRed

    Sorry, Clash, but you haven't shown where girls sports have become a "hotbed" for lesbianism. Even if it were, there is no proof or evidence that young girls are indoctrinated into it.

    By the same token, boys sports should be ahotbed of homosexuality, should it not? But, where is the rapid increase in homosexuality? I see neither male nor female homosexuality rapidly increasing.

    Some so called "study" by some little group with a particular ax to grind is hardly an objective report. When looked at critically, the article you present is about as hokie as can be.

    Just so you know, my favorite cousin is a lesbian, although she still tries to hide it from the family. She never played sports at all. She does nothing to harm anyone and lives her life with her "roommate" peacefully and quietly. She has no desire to involve anyone else in her private life and doesn't try.

    If you expect me to listen to what you are saying, I suggest you come up with some actual compelling evidence. Just becuase someone printed it on the the web doesn't make it true.

    If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    clash, clash, clash!

    Really Funky, this reveals that you do not take women’s competitive athletics as serious as men’s. Probably because of the God given nature of gender roles that your remark capitulates to. At least it is a good capitulation. It is obvious that you take sports such as boxing which requires skill technique and most of all a sense of brutality, which by the way is not a feminine thing, and regard them as a man thing. This is at the heart of your remark of foxy boxing . You would never refer to Men’s boxing in such inane and trivial manor as you do to women’s boxing. That is because you live as if the God of the bible is correct in regard to gender roles.
    Oh dear. Let me try to put some cultural context here. The quote I posted here was from Homer J. Simpson. Homer is a character in a popular animated TV show called The Simpsons. His character is - in short - an idiot, normally a very funny lovable idiot (it's a cartoon, after all). What he said was funny because it was so absurd, and it poked fun at the way people use the Bible to support all sorts of ridiculous beliefs. I posted it because your post reminded me so much of this quote, not because I "live as if the God of the bible is correct in regard to gender roles".

    Anyway, I have no problem with women participating in any kind of sport. Why would I? Granted, I prefer my women soft and curvy, but I don't try to pretend my sexual preferences are god-given or should be adopted by everyone.

    Regarding your strange belief that homosexuals are more likely to abuse children see http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

    Assuming the above web site is correct and that most homosexuals only ever have sex with consenting adults, do you still think homesexuality is immoral? If so, why?

    --
    Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. - Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts

  • clash_city_rockers
    clash_city_rockers

    Funky thank you for asking me this question.

    do you still think homesexuality is immoral? If so, why?
    Simply because God says in his word the bible that it is a sin. A moral evil. But what is more frightening is that Homosexuality is a judgment from God, a way in which God demonstraits his wrath is by letting them go. Leaving unrepentant man over to his own sinful lusts giving them over to perversion. Man is dependent on the common grace
    of God which restrains the sinful inclanations of evil that man sturs up deep with in his heart.

    Mark 7:20-23 KJV

    That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
    When someone goes gay it is a sign from God that he, the gay guy, is an object of ongoing wrath which will progress worse and worse untill he reaches the gates of Hell. (of cource the WT doesn't teach hell, that is why you guys love the WT it throughs out moral responsibility do the crime don't do the time). Romans 1:18-32 shows the progression of the wrath of God.

    Romans1:18-32 NIV

    18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
    21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
    24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.
    26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
    28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
    The good news Funky, is that you can escape this judgment of wrath by faith alone in Jesus Christ alone

    Romans 3:21-5:21 NIV

    Romans 3

    Righteousness Through Faith

    21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement,[1] through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished-- 26he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
    27Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. 28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. 29Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

    Romans 4

    Abraham Justified by Faith

    1What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, discovered in this matter? 2If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about--but not before God. 3What does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness."[2]
    4Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation. 5However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness. 6David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
    7"Blessed are they
    whose transgressions are forgiven,
    whose sins are covered.
    8Blessed is the man
    whose sin the Lord will never count against him."[3]
    9Is this blessedness only for the circumcised, or also for the uncircumcised? We have been saying that Abraham's faith was credited to him as righteousness. 10Under what circumstances was it credited? Was it after he was circumcised, or before? It was not after, but before! 11And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them. 12And he is also the father of the circumcised who not only are circumcised but who also walk in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.
    13It was not through law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. 14For if those who live by law are heirs, faith has no value and the promise is worthless, 15because law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.
    16Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham's offspring--not only to those who are of the law but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all. 17As it is written: "I have made you a father of many nations."[4] He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed--the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were.
    18Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations, just as it had been said to him, "So shall your offspring be."[5] 19Without weakening in his faith, he faced the fact that his body was as good as dead--since he was about a hundred years old--and that Sarah's womb was also dead. 20Yet he did not waver through unbelief regarding the promise of God, but was strengthened in his faith and gave glory to God, 21being fully persuaded that God had power to do what he had promised. 22This is why "it was credited to him as righteousness." 23The words "it was credited to him" were written not for him alone, 24but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness--for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. 25He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.

    Romans 5

    Peace and Joy

    1Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we[6] have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we[7] rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. 3Not only so, but we[8] also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.
    6You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. 8But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
    9Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him! 10For if, when we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! 11Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

    Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ

    12Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned-- 13for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law. 14Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
    15But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! 16Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. 17For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
    18Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men. 19For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
    20The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    Show footnotes

    3:25 Or as the one who would turn aside his wrath, taking away sin
    4:3 Gen. 15:6; also in verse 22
    4:8 Psalm 32:1,2
    4:17 Gen. 17:5
    4:18 Gen. 15:5
    5:1 Or let us
    5:2 Or let us
    5:3 Or let us

    Blessings,
    jr

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