Cofty said-
Your policy of engaging in lengthy rebuttals leading to epic threads, could not be more counter-productive.
Great: you've just made a claim, so now you get to prove it. Otherwise, it's a baseless ad hominem based on your gut feelings.
Cofty said- We have been through it all many times before you discovered JWN. Tammy thrives on opportunites to engage in mind-numbingly long and pedantic debates about nothing. She needs you and you oblige in abundance.
Cool, as I was wondering if JWN employed some sort of seniority system, where the arguments are given more weight moreso the longer you've been posting. Silly me, I thought the rules of logic applied!
Yup, I'm pretty sure your comment earned an eye-roll:
That brings us to this hyperbolic claim:
Cofty said- Tammy does NOT hear voices.
See, that's absurd, since you or anyone else who posts here cannot PROVE that statement, since you or I or anyone else doesn't actually KNOW what she does or doesn't perceive. But given that she claims it as her perception, and it's not uncommon, I have no proof to make that statement you're making, since I try to ONLY make claims that can be verified.
If you bothered looking into the subject of auditory hallucinations, you'd see there's actually been MRI studies conducted on those who complain of hearing voices, and sure enough, the areas of their brain that 'light up' (i.e. show brain activity) in response to external sounds (eg someone speaking in the same room) ALSO light up when they're reporting experiencing the hallucinations while in a completely silent room. So their perceptions have been confirmed in the lab, and the perception is as real to them as someone talking to us would be. It happens, it's not proof of God, etc, since people experience hallucinations; get used to it.
Don't deny people what they perceive, or what they feel: it's an ugly habit, and is the same tactic used by school-yard bullies (who hit someone, and then tell them, "that didn't hurt, you're just being a baby...").
Cofty said- Did you know that somebody who has been cremated cannot be resurected because the spirit resides in the bones - don't worry as long as god can locate their baby teeth all will be well? I am 100% serious.
Yeah, it's not new or novel: someone's apparently been reading in the archives here on JWN, since I recall reading about the Jewish rabbinical belief (circa 200 BC, IIRC) where Jews believed that resurrection could occur, just as long as the tailbone (coccyx) was intact; the tailbone supposedly was to be mixed with the 'living waters of life' so that the dead person could be resurrected after the flesh had regenerated around tailbone. No tailbone, no soup for you! It's partly why Jews and Muslims don't cremate their dead, to this day.
From a post on this thread:
Rabbinic tradition taught that in the grave, while the rest of the body perishes, the lower end of the spine remains (known as Luz) which when the dew falls upon it will become a complete body again and live. Thus is solved the mystery of the Resurrection of the Body. Hell-fire (named from Gehenna) may now be seen to mean extremity in death, in that unhappy dryness (cf. p. 258, n. 5). It is contrasted with the water of life, which is with God (Ps. xxxvi, 9), coming out from his throne (Rev. xxii, 1, 17).4 So Dives' burning torment and need for water (Luke xvi, 24). In the judgement after death the reward of the righteous is the water of life, and the part of sinners 'shall be in the lake that burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death' (Rev. xxi, 6-9; cf. xx, i4f., vii, 17).
Not less illuminating is the Mohammedan view. In the Koran we read that God created every beast from water'.5 Like the Rabbinic teaching is the doctrine that in the grave the earth consumes the whole of the body except the bone al Ajb, the bottom of the spine, which will remain till the blast of resurrection.6 ' For this birth the earth will be prepared by the rain above mentioned which is to fall continually for forty years and will resemble the seed of a man and be supplied from the water under the throne of God which is called living water; by the efficacy and virtue of which the dead bodies.
Cofty said- My advice is a very brief reply to any attempt to preach this voice-hearing cult. State simply that these claims are foolish, manipultive and not appropriate in a discussion forum and then move on.
Tag, you're it. In fact, start a new thread on the disclaimer statement, and then when she plays the "My Lord tells me" card, someone posts a link. Done and done.
Adam
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