Pope Francis's view on ABORTION can end all discussion on abortion!

by abiather 32 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  abiather

  “Defence of unborn life is closely linked to the defence of each and every other human right. It involves the conviction that a human being is always sacred and inviolable, in any situation and at every stage of development. Human beings are ends in themselves and never a means of resolving other problems. Once this conviction disappears, so do solid and lasting foundations for the defence of human rights, which would always be subject to the passing whims of the powers that be. Reason alone is sufficient to recognize the inviolable value of each single human life, but if we also look at the issue from the standpoint of faith, “every violation of the personal dignity of the human being cries out in vengeance to God and is an offence against the creator of the individual”.

  http://liveactionnews.org/pope-francis-presents-a-telling-point-on-abortion/
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  J. Hofer

  is that so. how does this end any discussion?
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  abiather

  Because of the simple fact that we are all human beings, and human beings understand things pertaining to them.

  “Human beings are ends in themselves and never a means of resolving other problems.”

  If one understands this GOLDEN SENTENCE, question on abortion would end automatically.

  When you see red signal on the road-intersection, you know what it means. If you are not serious-minded, you can take individual words such as red, signal and so on and say red does not mean do not cross, it is just one of many colors given to man for his enjoyment... and signal means to me this and that ..... and so on. Fully convinced, you cross. Then the law-enforcement agencies will make you convince otherwise with absolute clarity. You will NEVER have any doubt thereafter!

  Life is precious. You are free to play with it provided you are prepared to face its cosequences!
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  Witness My Fury

  “Human beings are ends in themselves and never a means of resolving other problems.”

  Then that makes the Universal Soverienty and the Invisible War between Big J and Mr Satan a complete and utter load of bollocks then doesnt it. Oh wait it already is anyway.....
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  Witness My Fury

  "Life is precious. You are free to play with it provided you are prepared to face its cosequences!"

  Please explain what you mean by consequences? Other than the normal ones life throws up.... I'm detecting a supernatural threat there.
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  designs

  A third to half of all pregnancies end spontaneously, that is 30-50 million spontaneous abortions. What does that say about the great "power" or life being sacred. If you knew your unborn baby had no brain what would your choice be. Would you force a teenage girl to have her uncle's child.

  These abortion discussions are always difficult because life is not so sweet and nice. Same goes for choices we make during life and at the end of our own lives. Would you want to be sustained by machines or drugs when "nature wants to take its course". You could be at end stage cancer and medicine could keep you going for another month, maybe in pain maybe in a coma, what would you do with your sacred life.

  You can be pro-choice for women and against the death penalty. Life decisions are complex.
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  abiather

  Witnessmyfury:

  Universal Issue involving God and Satan using humans as guinea pig is a story invented by WT. Jesus is not at aware of universal issue. (Mathew 13:33) The whole world lies under the power of the wickedness (meaning unproductiveness, wastefullness). (1 John 5:19) Wicked person is a distorted translation. Hence God has been the Ruler always. He has left man on earth not to spoil life and earth. Every religion and culture say in the beginnings things were like paradise. Why man spoiled it? His choice! Even now people choose to smoke, drink alcohol despite the clear warning printed on the pack/bottle! People have to choose wisely—and there are millions who choose wisely, and enjoy lives. The latter prove that God's intervention is not necessary on earth as man is endowed with ability to make wise decisions!

  Regarding your perceived supernatural threat: “Every action has equal and opposite reaction”—you have to be prepared for surprises. If you can go that far of destroying innocent life in the womb itself, you should not worry about the consequences—natural or supernatural. If you are MANLY about action, be MANLY about its consequences!
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  abiather

  designs

  You don't worry about spontaneous abortion (there could be many unseen reasons behind them).

  If YOU choose for a child, be prepared to nourish and cherish the child.
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  Witness My Fury

  Stop dancing about and plainly state: what are the consequences as you perceive them?
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  abiather

  Witness My Fury

  REASON dictates: What you give to the child, you will have to undergo--how and when--will be determined by nature!