by shadow 57 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Humans have evolved over millions of years. Many have good morals and are kind, generous and loving, many are immoral and greedy, spiteful smurf smurfing mother smurfing son's of smurfs.
There is no relationship between morality and evolution, except for how individuals evolve throughout their lives. They become nice and caring or they don't.
Kate xx
The recent examples only serve to strengthen the argument that "morality" is decided by the majority and imposed on the minority via threat of punishment.
Instead of stealing, you set a slave free in the South. Your strong community will punish you until forcibly changed by a stronger force. Who is the "moral" person, the honorable slave holder or the slave thief?
If evolutionists spare the elderly and disabled out of fear of joining one of those groups, then they are acting contrary to improving the health of the species\herd. The weak should be culled. Instead you argue that they will act in whatever way benefits the individual.
A man cheats on his wife. He's just trying to spread his genes around and can't help it because evolution programmed him to do it.
You are going to have to connect more dots.
The bible has been used to justify all kinds of bad behavior, including slavery.
Your strong community - shadow
There are good and bad people in communities and always corruption. There will always be reasons for bad men to run around, evolution is the lamest reason I have heard yet.
I define good morals as the application of Matt 7.12 do unto others................
Not everyone applies this, evolution is no factor. People do as people do. Kate xx
And according to the OT, a man can have many wives.
Shadow - There is no such thing as "absolute" morality. No perfect standard of good, "out there" somewhere, hanging in space like a Platonic ideal.
Its notable that so many theists still suffer from Platonic essentialism.
You fear that if there is no absolute morality all we are left with is personal preference or the will of the majority. Fear not!
Morality is about the objective thinking about the flourishing of conscious creatures.
There are objective moral facts to be discovered - truths and errors - that do not depend on the will of a capricious deity.
Shadow - When I said "Evolution is descriptive not prescriptive" did you ignore it because you didn't understand it, or because it takes away your main point?
I wonder what the questionmark in the title is supposed to indicate
As I said, I can do this all day long. But it won't matter. Hopefully, as Cofty states, some lurkers will benefit. Use your brains theists; stop letting others do your thinking for you. When you escaped from the Borg, you should have kept moving. So atheists aren't compassionate?
Religious People Less Driven By Compassion Than Are Atheists And Agnostics, Study Says
. By: LiveScience Staff Published: 05/01/2012 12:11 PM EDT on LiveScience Atheists and agnostics are more driven by compassion to help others than are highly religious people, a new study finds. That doesn't mean highly religious people don't give, according to the research to be published in the July 2012 issue of the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science. But compassion seems to drive religious people's charitable feelings less than other groups. "Overall, we find that for less religious people, the strength of their emotional connection to another person is critical to whether they will help that person or not," study co-author and University of California, Berkeley social psychologist Robb Willer said in a statement. "The more religious, on the other hand, may ground their generosity less in emotion, and more in other factors such as doctrine, a communal identity, or reputational concerns." |
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By: LiveScience Staff
Published: 05/01/2012 12:11 PM EDT on LiveScience
Atheists and agnostics are more driven by compassion to help others than are highly religious people, a new study finds.
That doesn't mean highly religious people don't give, according to the research to be published in the July 2012 issue of the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science. But compassion seems to drive religious people's charitable feelings less than other groups.
"Overall, we find that for less religious people, the strength of their emotional connection to another person is critical to whether they will help that person or not," study co-author and University of California, Berkeley social psychologist Robb Willer said in a statement. "The more religious, on the other hand, may ground their generosity less in emotion, and more in other factors such as doctrine, a communal identity, or reputational concerns."
Does alturism exist in Primates- Reciprocity, Group selection and kin selection, and individual self-sustaining practices. This is still being studied and has support and criticism on both sides.
