by cofty 2596 Replies latest jw experiences
1) Do you believe we have every fact necessary to reach a logical conclusion on this matter? YES/NO
2) Do you accept the possibility that there are factors involved that we are not capable of grasping? YES/NO - flamegrilled
1 - Yes
2 - No. There is no possible factor that could turn the murder of a quarter of a million people and the devastation of a further 5 million into an act of love.
The sky within this artist frame of reference (which he tolds upward to the heavens) cannot give a complete picture - Caliber
So tell us exactly what we are missing.
Endlessly repeating that god has his reasons but never saying what those reasons are is not an argument.
What's your definition of murder? And who said the tsunami was an act of love?
Your logic seems very loose to me.
the topic is framed too tight - Caliber
What exactly would you like to add to the discussion?
That is not an invitation for one of your bloody sermons!
Flamegrilled I will get back to you on that one in a few minutes, I am working through in order of posting. Almost there.
The Bible = what God says
The Tsunami = what God does
any questions.
@flamegrilled
the fact remains that we CAN conceive of a circumstance whereby it seems irrational to reconcile the loving nature of a higher being from the viewpoint of a being that has more limited ability to assess the true facts .
please run that by me again with an example, assuming we both agree on the standard definition of a fact ie. that which can be demonstrably proven to be an accurate reflection of reality
besty - I did it several pages back with the anaology of a domestic animal unable to comprehend why a loving owner might inflict pain on it
(sorry I don't know how to link to specific previous comments)
and that applies how to wiping out 250k humans?
speculate please on what might be the 'true facts' we can't comprehend from the Tsunami? or you can decline to speculate if you prefer.
) Do you accept the possibility that there are factors involved that we are not capable of grasping? YES/NO - flamegrilled
No. There is no possible factor that could turn the murder of a quarter of a million people and the devastation of a further 5 million into an act of love. ~~ cofty
murder
"the killing of a human being by a sane person, with intent, malice aforethought (prior intention to kill the particular victim or anyone who gets in the way) and with no legal excuse or authority ."
Please tell me you are just exaggerating to make a point... if not what was God's malice towards these people ?
