Christians please answer something for me

by confusedandalone 58 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • aquafrenta
    aquafrenta

    1 Jehova is not gods name, he has made it unknown. Jehova is a description of him "I am that I am". There is an unusual movie "PI" that correlates his name to the solution for pi.

    2 Read "Glory of the Stars". All of "pagan" mythology is really a version of the redemption message given by God to Adam, Enoch and Noah.

    3 The battle between good and evil, God and Satan, Heaven and Hell was originally found in Persia. The Israelites came by this knowledge while captive in Babalon. The wise men who attended Jesus birth were part of the more ancient "pagan" religion originated by Zoroaster.

    4 God helps those who help themselves. Not a sparrow falls but he doesn't mourn. It rains on the just and unjust. God has given us all the tools we need to transfom the earth into paradise. There is a common story about a man caught in a flood who rejects help from many and after perishing confronts God. I trusted you to save me and you let me die! God responds I sent help repeatedly and you sent them away saying "God will save Me"

    Religion and morality often confound. If looked at from a purely cultural perspective the theory of evolution applied to religion would indicate there is a competetive advantage to religion and seemingly unreasonable moral belief. It makes close quarter, large population confinement over rule the agressive nature animals express when they find themselve part of a large crowd with less than optimal space. It allows cooperation when there ought to be competition. It is why the Spanish defeated the Aztecs.

    Either God exists or he does not. Science can not answer this question.

    Not all who believe in God and Christ fall into the 6,000 year dinasours perished in the flood creation story.

    I believe the creation story in Genesis tells us how god transformed man from beast. He breathed the spirit into him. Eating the fruit allowed Adam to know good from evil. Animals do not know they have done wrong inately. Without the knowledge of good and evil questions about Gods morality would be pointless. The real question is not why does God allow suffering, buy why does God allow us to suffer from the knowledge of it?

    Gods traits are these:

    Omnipowerful

    Omnipresent

    Omniscient

    Science attempts to duplicate these properties.

    Unifield particle theory

    Internet

    Internet

    Babel all over again.

    If science can prove life from amino acid improved by competetive pressure into ever increasing complexity, why couldn't God have done so first?

    First cause is a philisophical question, not a scientific one.

  • daigle1212
    daigle1212

    I really think we are all creators sons and daughters, hence the OUR father. I believethe bible is good story book, witha lot of true stories not to be made into a religion but a tool to use like a flashlite, jesus, budda, krishna, all enlightened people. Enlightened, only because they walk in light, not the darkness like people that keep walking with no direction. Confusedandalone maybe try a newname "Bewonderedandneveralone" Believe in the poem like footsteps in the sand. I believe we all have a purpose, and it will be found in ourselves and what we leave as our personal legacy, not in any religion or person or group of people outside of ourselves.

  • DS211
    DS211

    Daigle thanks for posting but the earth doesnt have 4 corners...apparently God forgot to tell peopls that in the Bible....they sill thought our earth was flat.

  • John_Mann
    John_Mann

    By inspiration Jesus speaks all The Truth into every heart of those who love Him, because He is the Way and the Life.

  • galaxie
    galaxie

    John Mann by what Inspiration did Jesus speak truth into your heart by that I mean what method would he need to inspire him? And you say you had to love him before he did this? Surely love is unconditional otherwise according to the Christian ethos he would not have sacrificed himself to save you? You say he is the way and the life surely that is your hope which is related to faith which is related to hope etc.etc.etc but this belief does not guarantee the outcome you wish.

  • cofty
    cofty

    Gods traits are these: Omnipowerful Omnipresent Omniscient - aquafrenta

    Then you cannot escape the conclusion that he is a moral monster.

  • snare&racket
    snare&racket

    Some people want to believe in evil santa (god) SOOOO MUCH they will do mental gymnastics in order to turn the universe on its head to keep him viably in existence...

    Both my favourite and least favourite is " well maybe those things aren't evil, who are we to say what is evil"

    That is the length someone will go to, to defend evil santa (god).......

  • adamah
    adamah

    Prologos said- well, you mentioned the laws of nature. If they were created, how else would they be here?,

    I presume you mean NOT created?

    Prologos said- but: look what hard work and ingenuity it took to pry them out of their embodiments in nature. so, follwing that pattern, would you expect different for the domain of the divine, mystical, the rrreligious?

    As explained in the article below, the concept of “natural laws” is anthropomorphic thinking, projecting human concepts onto non-living matter; it's also an unscriptural concept that's only a later development, since the concept was popularized by theists like Descartes:

    http://rationallyspeaking.blogspot.com/2013/10/are-there-natural-laws.html

    So pointing to the existence of "natural laws" to support theism is a circular argument (and meaningless to anyone who accepts the possibility of a multiverse, many Universes which each follow their own "natural patterns").

    Adam

  • daigle1212
    daigle1212

    Ds211 then what is north east south and west? This is exactly what I am talking about, some people just like to argue.

  • daigle1212
    daigle1212

    Does four directions sound better to the arguementative people?

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