It's sad really that JWs think they are doing what is best, they really believe, I suppose the good thing is many are leaving too, and waking up. A very scary article to say the least. I am glad we left a few weeks ago.
Kate xx
Super Tasty Kool Aid Flavored WT Study this Weekend!
by LostGeneration 42 Replies latest watchtower bible
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GLTirebiter
"but then later down it says now is not the time to put our trust in human institutions (but the org is a human institution)."
Are you saying the spirit-directed, annointed, Governing Body are mere humans? You must be an apostate!
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Zordino
I believe they are prepping the flock for something.... and if I had to take an educated guess, I would have to say that it has something to do with donations. They will make Donations kinda 'Mandatory' in some way.
In first world countries,
a regular baptized publisher must pay: 200$ a month
an umbaptized publisher must pay: 300$ per month
An reg pioneer: 100$ per month
A special pioneer: only 50$ a month...
etc etc .....
Something like a tax on the R&F...
I ofcourse would be paying my family's share in monopoly money.
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KateWild
Something like a tax on the R&F...- zordino
This wouldn't suprise me at all, they were getting heavy on the passing the plate when I left a few weeks ago. Sometimes in one meeting there could even be two items about donations.
Kate xx
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baltar447
I think that "taxing" the R&F would ensure a mass exodus.
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piztjw
Most of the very few comments where I am at were all cookie cutter parroting the sentiment that we MUST obey men (eldurrs) as rulers, rather than God. After all they speak for God now, according to the GB.
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Apognophos
The friends at my meeting had no reservations in repeating the statement from the paragraph that we should definitely obey any instructions we receive.
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wannabefree
I doubt it has anything to do with tithing, although they may introduce that one day, the part about something "appearing sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not" doesn't seem to fit that scenario.
Other than insisting continued obedience, I personally think there is nothing at all to it other than building hype. JW's need to constantly feel in urgent expectation. Statements like this just keeps the JW thinking the great trib and big A are imminent, don't want to postpone that expectation you know, gotta keep it going or the heart will get sick.
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frankiespeakin
So basically they(the Governing Body) are saying that some of the shit they are saying is crap from a human stand point of veiw (currently accepted standards of good logic and common sense) but must be obey reguardless of how bat shit crazy it really is. Well it's a start in the realization that the shit you/Governing Body print lacks good sense and maybe/is bat shit crazy and very impractical with a so-what attitude. What is somewhat troubling is their calling it 'life saving direction' and how dire that makes it sound, well they are after all a demented lot in a delusion when it comes to supposed divine authority.
" life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint."
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Island Man
I think I understand problemaddict's point about how the Jonestown referrence could kill the discussion with JWs. It's not that the Jonestown referrence isn't a fitting warning about what blind obedience can lead to. It's just that the typical JW is so indoctrinated that he won't think deeply enough to see the connection being made, but will only see on the surface that the Jonestown massacre is nothing like what currently exists among JWs and would just dismiss you as an apostate exaggerationist.
Regarding the point about not seeing JWs following through to drink the Kool Aid here are some facts to ponder on:
1. Most/many JWs believe that the organization is "Jehovah's Organization". Someone who has left the organization is described as someone who has "left Jehovah". Already, most/many regard the instructions and teachings coming from the organization as coming from Jehovah. Subconsciously they equate the organization with Jehovah.
2. JWs already devalue their present life. It is not uncommon to hear a JW, in arguing against the taking of a blood transfusion, make statements like: "should we disobey Jehovah to prolong our imperfect life in this old system of things?"
3. JWs are already willing to die - to essentially commit suicide - and are doing it in obedience to the organization! How so? What does a brainwashed JW do when his life depends on receiving a blood transfusion or treatment involving primary blood fractions and there are no effective alternatives? He refuses, essentially committing suicide! Brainwashed JWs, individually, are already drinking the "Kool Aid" by refusing lifesaving blood transfusions! And let's not forget about past JWs who drank the "kool Aid" by refusing organ transplants back when the organization taught against it.
Add to all of the above this new directive to be willing to obey the organization even if what it says does not seem sound or strategic from a human standpoint. In any future situation where JWs are told by their organization to drink the "kool aid", this latest directive will play on their minds. They will be thinking: "Yes it sounds strange, impractical, crazy, but I remember that November 2013 Watchower that said we must be ready to obey even if it doesn't seem prudent from a human standpoint. Am I going to trust in Jehovah or cave in to fear? I must be loyal to Jehovah even if it costs me my imperfect life in this dying old system. . . I must remember the closing words of Song 7: 'No longer as living for ourselves, For you we shall live or die'"
Sure, not every JW will drink the "Kool Aid" should the GB go all Jim Jones on them. But with roughly 8 million JWs what percentage do you think will obey? What percentage of JWs do you think are brainwashed enough to do it? If we conservatively say that 2% will obey that would amount to 160,000 deaths! That's roughly Jonestown x 160!!
But don't lose sight of the fact that it is already happening with the blood issue! I'm sure more JWs have died refusing blood over the years than the number of deaths at Jonestown.