Loyalty to Org Over Everything Else (page 2)

startingover13

Thank you all for the words of encouragement. I will be watching to see how she reacts if she gets reinstated. I've decided to give her some distance. That'll afford both of us some time to think and to evaluate what we want so that both of us can be happy. I'm realizing that I may need to love her enough to let her go, as stated earlier. Thanks again for your posts.

DesirousOfChange

Just the statement that she would stop speaking to you unless you were reinstated speaks volumes.

You dont want to be married and have kids with some one like this it will drive you crazy, and the love will not survive the turmoil. This is what cults do, and she is a casualty!!!!

You've received a lot of great comments and advice (from people who are neutral on the matter). The two quoted above should be the wake-up call for you. She will never come to respect you any more if you marry, in fact, probably the opposite.

Neither of you will likely get reinstated right now based on the simple fact that you are both associating with another DFd person (each other). Many elders see it as their job to make as difficult as possible. After all, you f*cked up and you have to pay the price and grovel.

Doc

WTWizard

You want spirituality? You want to avenge joke-hova who drove a wedge between you and that whom you care about? Try spiritual Satanism--that will give joke-hova that ultimate slap in the face. It will not undo the wedge, but you would be punishing joke-hova for doing that. And you will find real spirituality, along with many answers you thought you would never find within the LIE-ble. At the very least, you will realize that Christi-SCAM-ity, and that includes the jokehovians, resemble communism more than anything.

It's just that the jokehovians are more blatantly communist.

Quandry

I am sorry you are in this situation. I am sure that she misses her friends and family that do not speak to her. Why not just try doing fun stuff together and not discuss her going back? She may be dissapointed with the elders if they decide to make her wait for reinstatement, or perhaps some of your comments may come to mind as she again goes to meetings. At any rate, they will probably make her sit in the back for a long time to humiliate her-that she has continued to see you will not bode well.

In the end, though, she may opt to go back. As a poster said, this will give you your cue.

Wish you well.

DATA-DOG

Show her from the bible that everything went to hell when God's "people" wanted a human King. From then on it's been a repeating cycle of "man dominating man to his injury." If she believes that the bible is the ultimate authority, then show her from the bible that we do not dedicate our lives to any humans or organizations. It doesn't matter if you believe the bible, if she does, then use it. Then show the same from the "Organized" book.

Then show her the Walsh Trial transcripts where Hayden Covington says that any who won't believe " false prophecies" of the GB deserve death. Then show her today's WT study. If you love her, tell her the truth. Don't attack individual JWs, just the corruption in the WTBTS. If you can get her to believe the bible over the WT magazine and not be a "Watchtard", then you are half way there.

DD

startingover13

I fear that these events will never be forgotten. I've known JW couples that were df'ed together, married, got reinstated, and now they're living their lives to the full, sometimes even with children. I respect a couple that can draw closer during the difficult times and deepen their love for one another. They depend on each other the most when all others leave them. I haven't felt that with my girlfriend. At times she has voiced that her family sees me as the cause of all of this grief. Even though she hasn't said it outright, I think that she feels the same way. I don't think there is any coming back from something like that. No matter how "spiritual" I become, even I get reinstated and become Brother All-Star. That saddens me because it's almost like I'm marked. The only people that have loved me unconditionally are my parents. I thank God for them every single day. For this forum as well.

DATA-DOG

" I don't think there is any coming back from something like that."

Then you have nothing to lose.

DD

startingover13

I've promised myself that 2014 will bring changes. Data-Dog, you're right. One saying we have in my family is that once you're at rock bottom, the only way you can go is up. So this year and the years to come will be full of hope and progress on all levels. Professionally, spiritually, and in my personal relationships. I will keep the members of this forum updated on my progress as the months pass.

Thanks again.

startingover13

The "return to the org'' and "I want to marry a servant of Jehovah" rhetoric is back in full swing. Today she made it clear that she plans make a career out of pioneering. Nevermind any "worldy" career. Money doesn't bring happiness, pioneering does. Lord...if you're listening, HELP.

Witness My Fury

The signals to dump her and move on with your life are very strong.

Loyalty to Org Over Everything Else

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