Help! I have fallen in love with a Witness (page 2)

butalbee

Look--this isn't my fault. Yeah, I fell for a dumb dub, came to this site for help and advice, but it is not my fault that these witnesses keep messing with the hearts and minds of us worldly people. Blame it on the watchtower, don't blame it on me. It's dumb dub's fault for taking his little peter out of his pants and into the depths of sin........
Oh yeah--I'll start an advice column tomorrow for all the ladies that get their heart broken by these dimwits......Hey, I'll even change my homepage to it. Haha.

This looped, re-used scenario happens every day, I wish it never happened to me, but then I would've never had found this board and all you beautiful people........

COMF

Ah, me...

The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all your piety nor wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.

zanex

be warned...it can only come to no good...unless HE leaves first.

-Z-

butalbee

itsalingthing--You gonna join in and commment on our comments, or what?

Delite2k

First of all, i'm also in love (deeply) with a witness as well, so i'm in a similar, situation except, he hasn't told me that he can't be with me or that he feels guilty, etc. And we do a lot of things together...A Lot But I can say this, never change your lifestyle for a man. Would he do it for you? (Would any man?) Would he leave the JW to be with you? Honestly, ask yourself that question. My friend, he knows i'm Baptist and I love him so much but i'm not going nowhere. See,I didn't really know bout the JW's until found this board and by doing some research on my own to try to understand his beliefs and the JW, period. If you want to be come a witness, do it because YOU want to, not to be with him, cause to my understanding there's a lot of rules and things, your business becomes their business, your life, your beliefs will change. If my "friend" ever ask me to convert, I don't know what i'll say, or do....But think for a moment, is this what you want for yourself? Would you really be happy if you became a JW to be with him?

BTW...Your didn't mention the he was willing to do what he can to be with you...is he?

Introspection

The answer to this and a lot of other questions on this board is actually fairly simple, or can be summed up atleast in a simple way. You just have to ask the question: "Am I willing to face the truth?" All other things are details. We tell ourselves we're willing to this and that to get this or that or him or her, but none of that matters if it's based on a false belief in the first place, and I'm not even speaking of the religion at this point. Another way of putting it is just be honest with yourself, and don't develop this tunnel vision and only look at what you want, because when that happens there's usually a tendancy to only see what you want to see, even about that object of desire, not to mention everything else that goes with it.

"Who can face the knowledge that the truth is not the truth?" -Rush, Distant Early Warning

Sirona

Be AWARE of THIS:

Become a Jehovah's Witness and you can't...
Celebrate Mother's Day
Celebrate Father's Day
Celebrate Grandparent's Day
Celebrate Birthdays
Celebrate Thanksgiving
Celebrate New Year's Day
Celebrate Christmas
Celebrate Halloween
Celebrate Easter
Celebrate Flag Day
Celebrate Independence Day (Fourth of July)
Celebrate Hanukkah
Celebrate St. Patrick's Day
Celebrate Valentine's Day
Celebrate "Any" Holiday
Sing any Holiday Songs
Eat turkey on Thanksgiving
Join the Boy Scouts
Join the Girl Scouts
Become a Cheerleader
Attend class reunions (No "Worldly" association)
Go to the school prom
Play School Sports (No competition allowed)
Play Professional Sports
Join any organization that has ties to Christianity
Shop at the Salvation Army
Volunteer for the Salvation Army
Shop at Church run thrift stores
Shop at Church Garage Sales
Shop at any Store that has Christian ties
Contribute to the Red Cross
Join the YMCA
Join the Military
Salute the Flag
Sing the National Anthem
Go to War
Vote (Conscience matter now to please Governments, you will be ostracized if you do)

Run for any Public Office
Campaign for a Candidate
Can join union, but not participate in its affairs
Buy lottery tickets
Gamble
Date without supervision - young or old
Watch R rated movies
Cannot work on another Church if it's a regular customer
Smoke cigarettes, pipes or a cigars
Sell cigarettes, pipes or a cigars
Accept Blood

Donate Blood
Wear blue jeans or casual clothes to the Kingdom Hall
Wear pants to the Kingdom Hall if you are a female
Wear skirts or dresses that are above the knee at any time
Wear any type of long hair if you are a man
Wear a beard in some Kingdom Halls and areas (judged hard)
Pierce ears if male, other body parts if female
Have any Tattoos
Say curse words
Toast drinks (pagan origin)
Throw rice at a wedding (pagan origin)
Say "Bless You" when someone sneezes
Say "Good Luck!", "Wish me Luck", "I was Lucky" or "You were Lucky"
Tell a ghost story
Watch TV shows, "Sabrina, the Teenage Witch", "Touched by an Angel", or "Bewitched"
Say "It was fate" or mention anything to do with "fate"
Engage in any risky acts such as: Sky Diving, Bungie Jumping & Hang Gliding
Have Jesus as your Mediator and Savior

Wear or own a Cross
Attend another Church (Spiritual Fornication)

Associate on a regular basis with nonbelievers

Associate with ex-members

Associate with disfellowshipped ones
Talk with disfellowshipped ones
Marry a nonbeliever (If you do, you are judged hard by the congregation)
Marry in another Church or attend a wedding in another Church
Have a funeral in another Church or attend a funeral in another Church
Pray, including holding your head down, when a nonbeliever prays
Study other religious articles not from the Society
Read negative information about the Society
Question the Watchtower Society on anything
Exercise your on conscience if it goes against the religion
Question Anything!
Have Christian freedom

Become a Jehovah's Witness and you have to....
Attend several regular meetings each week
Go out in field service regularly to recruit new members
Report your field service activity to the congregation each month
Attend regular scheduled conventions
Give talks at the congregation (whether young or old, male or female)
Read and fully understand their teachings
Prepare for each meeting
Study with family
Fully accept the Watchtower's authority and rules (no exceptions)
Dress according to their rules at the Kingdom Halls, Service and conventions (no exceptions)
• Women and small girls must wear dresses
• Men must wear dress pants with dress shirts and ties
Associate only with fellow members
Report on fellow members including your family, if they are caught doing something against Society's rules

You have to sing at the meetings (even if you have a bad voice) - or you are looked down upon.

So you are willing to join then?
Sirona

** http://www.religioustolerance.org **

itsalingthing

I can appreciate all of the advice. No we did not have intercourse. We did go to afew important stages of foreplay, however. I don't know if he would leave the JW for me. I don't really want him to. That would be the same as me joining FOR him. If he wants to leave, it should be on his own terms and I would do the same. Apparantly, after speaking to him last night, the reason he wasn't speaking to me was not about religion or beliefs. It was about an argument we had, and how it made him feel. I often wonder how devout he is. We have drinks every night (sometimes to excess) and he started smoking again recently (I am a smoker). He has an energy about him that I want around me all the time. He makes comments about WHEN we are married, carrying me over the threshold and WHEN we have sex. After our conversation yesterday, I almost fell off the fence (literally) and he said something about a story to tell the grandchildren. So I think he wants the same things as me, but only time will tell how that will happen.

I know almost everyone told me to run away as fast as I could. I can't, or won't, do that. The person he is is too good to let get away. Remember, that all of the ex-JW that responded, were once not ex. You were right there with him and held the same beliefs. Something, or someone, gave you the courage to leave. Maybe I am that for him. I am willing to stick around and find out. I am not a religious person, and I wouldn't become a JW JUST to be with him. I know that I enjoy celebrating my Birthday and Thanksgiving and national holidays (X-Mas and Easter and those other "religious" holidays never had much meaning for me in the sense of commercialism). I love to celebrate Mother's and Father's day with my parents. So joining will have to be MY decision, and MINE alone.

I will keep you all posted. I would say "wish me luck" but, well, you know. :)

Sirona

I really hope things work out well for you.

** http://www.religioustolerance.org **

jaded

Itsalingthing, you are right. We were at one time where your friend is now. Maybe you will be the one who gives him the courage to leave. Good luck! (It feels so good to be able to say that again!)

Help! I have fallen in love with a Witness

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