Is Anything Worth Dying For?

by HildaBingen 29 Replies latest jw friends

  • LDH
    LDH

    ((((((((Funky Derek))))))))

    He put the smack down on your ass, "Hilda."

    Lisa
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  • bakedcanuck
    bakedcanuck

    Cyclical Ketogenic Diets Part 1
    Copyright Lyle McDonald 1996

    Abstract
    After roughly a 20 year absence from the public eye, the ketogenic diet
    has made a reappearance in both the fields of weight loss as well as sports
    nutrition. Books like "Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution", "Protein Power" by
    the Eades', and to a lesser degree "The Carbohydrate Addicts Diet" by the
    Hellers have brought low carb dieting back into the weight loss arena.
    Additionally, in the field of sports nutrition, two slightly different
    approaches have entered the fray in the form of "The Anabolic Diet" created
    by Dr. Mauro DiPasquale and "Bodyopus" created by Dan Duchaine. Rather
    than suggesting a low carbohydrate approach indefinitely, these two diets
    advocate a cyclical ketogenic approach combining 5 days of low carbohydrate
    intake with a 2 day carb-up akin to what endurance athletes used to do
    prior to competition.
    Unfortunately, it is difficult to draw any absolute conclusions about this
    approach from article written about it as the groups involved in the debate
    invariably have some vested financial interest in either promoting or
    decrying the approach. In this article, I simply want to examine some of
    the theoretical bases of the cyclical ketogenic diet and if it has any
    merit. Additionally, possible health concerns will be discussed.

    Some Basic physiology
    What are ketones?
    Ketone or ketone bodies (KB) are a byproduct of fat metabolism. KB's are
    generated in the liver due to the actions of glucagon (15). There are two
    KB's which circulate freely in the bloodstream. They are acetoacetate and
    beta-hydroxybutyrate. Most aerobic tissues, including the brain, skeletal
    muscle, and the heart can oxidize KB's for fuel (8). Under normal blood
    sugar conditions, glucose is the preferred fuel in the brain, muscles and
    heart. Under these conditions the rate of ketone body utilization by
    tissue depends in part on their concentration. Under normal conditions, KB
    metabolism is minimal, perhaps 1-2% of total energy expenditure. In
    diabetic ketotic patients, this can increase to 5% (8).

    Glucagon, insulin and ketogenesis:
    The formation of KB's and utilization of fuel is ultimately controlled by
    the circulating levels of insulin and glucagon. Insulin is a hormone
    released from the pancreas in response to eating carbohydrates. Glucagon
    is insulin's antagonistic hormone and is only present when insulin levels
    fall to quite low levels. In the liver, high glucagon levels direct FFA
    away from TG synthesis and towards beta-oxidation. Glucagon also activates
    adipose tissue lipase which activates lipolysis. Glucagon's ketogenic and
    lipolytic effects are inactivated by even small amounts of insulin. To
    achieve sufficient glucagon concentrations for increased
    ketogenesis/lipolysis, blood glucose levels must drop to around 50-60 mg/dl
    and insulin must drop almost to zero. This drop in insulin can occur with
    complete fasting, exercise, or by simply restricting carbohydrate intake to
    below 30 grams per day. Within about 3 days of carbohydrate restriction,
    blood glucose will fall below 60 mg/dl, insulin levels will drop to zero
    and glucagon levels will increase causing an increase in KB formation.
    With exercise training, ketogenesis should occur more quickly and ketosis
    established. (2)
    How to induce ketosis?
    Ketosis (defined as the buildup of the KB's in the bloodstream) will occur
    under several conditions including: fasting, after prolonged exercise, and
    when a high fat diet is consumed. (7,8,15).
    Once ketosis is established (i.e. when ketone concentration in the blood
    is higher than glucose concentration), ketones will become the preferred
    fuel by all three tissues providing up to 75% of the fuel utilized (7).
    The brain, which normally utilizes glucose exclusively for fuel will, after
    a period of 2 to 3 weeks, switch almost exclusively to using KB's for fuel
    (1, 6, 15). The time delay for the brain to make this metabolic shift has
    some major implications which need to be discussed. As described further
    below, one study (22) found a decrement in mental flexibility during the
    first week of adopting aketogenic diet. Therefore, for individuals who's
    jobs or livelihood requires great mental acuity, the ketogenic diet
    approach (cyclical or otherwise) may not be an ideal one.

  • HildaBingen
    HildaBingen

    Nice way not to answer a question, funky. Biblical Christianity does not devalue this life. Read 1 Timothy 4:8. But Jesus taught his followers that he/she who tries to save his/her life will lose it. The present life is good. But it is not the be-all-and-end-all.

  • bakedcanuck
    bakedcanuck

    The ketogenic ratio
    Food can be rated as either ketogenic or anti-ketogenic dependent on their
    conversion to glucose in the body. Dietary fats are the most ketogenic
    item, converting to glucose with only 10% efficiency. Proteins are in the
    middle, converting to glucose with about 58% efficiency (this is due to the
    fact that some dietary amino acids are ketogenic in nature, meaning that
    they convert to ketones, and others are glucogenic, meaning that they
    convert to glucose) (2). Dietary carbohydrates convert to blood sugar with
    100% efficiency making them completely anti-ketogenic in nature. To
    rapidly establish ketosis, a minimum ratio of 1.5 grams of fat for each
    gram of protein and/or carbohydrate is recommended. This would provide a
    ketogenic ratio of 1.5:1. While higher ketogenic ratios are used
    clinically, this author can see no need to use a higher ratio of fat to
    protein and carbs for a healthy athlete. (5)

    What exactly does ketosis mean?
    Ketosis simply refers to a metabolic state where the concentration of KB's
    in the blood builds to higher than normal levels. As will be discussed
    below in further detail, this should not be equated with the ketoacidosis
    which occurs in diabetics.
    The presence of ketosis through whatever means implies two things (15):
    1. that lipid energy metabolism has been activated
    2. that the entire pathway of lipid degradation is intact.
    Normally, there is fairly tight control on the production of KB's. Except
    in pathological conditions such as diabetes, excess ketones will simply be
    excreted in the urine (1). This allows an individual to check for the
    presence and urinary concentration of ketones by utilizing Ketostix.

    Metabolic effects of ketogenic diets
    Establishment of ketosis, even in the short term, has the effect of
    increasing the body's ability to utilize fat for fuel. After adaptation to
    ketosis, there is a decrease in fasting RQ (an indicator of relative fuel
    metabolism with lower values indication greater reliance on fat metabolism
    versus carbohydrate metabolism) (7). Also, there is a decrease in glucose
    oxidation during ketogenic diets as KB's are providing much of the body's
    energy needs (18). Additionally, adaptation to a ketogenic diet increases
    fat oxidation during exercise even in trained individuals (14, 17).
    One point of contention regarding ketogenic diets is the supposed protein
    sparing effect when compared to a eucaloric diet with a high carbohydrate
    intake. Due to methodological differences, some studies have found a
    decrease in protein utilization while others have found an increase (8).
    However, available data seems to support the idea that ketosis spares
    protein from being used for energy. Since there is essentially an
    unlimited supply of fat which can be converted to ketones, and since
    ketones can be used by all oxidative tissues, there should be little need
    to oxidize protein to generate glucose through gluconeogenesis. There is
    an obligatory protein requirement which must be met of about 30 grams per
    day. And, to be safe, an intake of 60-75 grams of protein is recommended
    (7).

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    It is a moot point in the context you presented it. Here is why: you said

    Maybe JWs are mistaken when it comes to the BT issue; maybe not.

    Absolutely provably wrong. There is no maybe, they are mistaken. I've gotten into conversations with witnesses who presented it that way, and the point is obvious--be willing to die for god.

    No god talker. YOU be willing to put aside your arrogance and quit telling God that he wants humans to die.

    Me? I'll die for my kid. I'd probably die for your kid. Hell, if you don't reveal your hateful ignorant arrogant personality to me, I might even die for you.

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek
    The present life is good. But it is not the be-all-and-end-all.

    Oh yes it is, and I defy you to prove otherwise.
    Why would a deity give us a life, and then expect us to gamble it for a better life? Why not just give us the life he wants us to have in the first place?

    --
    But if you pray all your sins are hooked upon the sky
    Pray and the heathen lie will disappear
    Prayers they hide the saddest view
    (Believing the strangest things, loving the alien)
    -- David Bowie, Loving The Alien

  • TheStar
    TheStar

    Bakedcanuk,

    Where did you get this info. from? I've actually been reading all your posts cause I'm currently on a low carb diet, myself. Can you please tell me where you got this info.? Thanks.

  • bakedcanuck
  • riz
    riz

  • Mimilly
    Mimilly

    I'm dying for some chocolate ice cream.... anyone else want some?

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