I don't have the interest to read this thread but can I clarify something?
Prologos you have said a few times that you are 90 years of age. Is this not true?
Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---
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prologos
No.
I asked the accusers to show where. I do not recall to have directly written, or implied, --that is-- lied: "-- I AM 90.--"
I am NOT 90, but ~well into my eighties, PUSHING 90, in my 9th decade.
[please keep reading, because there is interesting astronomy stuff here, my un-conventional way of putting things, designed or not, bringing out the goodies.
I am just horsing around, the STALKING-horse, that has the birds (not bird-brains) rise to the occasion.
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cofty
Ok thanks for clarifying that.
This thread isn't for me. You can't decide if you want to talk science or poetry. I get bored easily.
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prologos
yeah, but science without beauty, poetry is dry.
If science would communicate better, fresher, more poetic, we would not have such an un-educated world,
a picture of the either 'egghead' or 'frankenstein-ish' researchers,science workers,-
the true benefactors of humanity.
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cofty
Science has never been more accessible.
I'm reading about epigentics at the moment. Just a few years ago this subject was available only to specialists.
Popular science writers like Sean B Carroll, Nick Lane, Matt Ridley, Lawrence Krauss, Nessa Carey, Dawkins and many others have made science exciting to the masses.
Ignorance is a choice.
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snare&racket
Science is a quest for truth, not communication. Dawkins was made professor for communication of science and people like you attack him and call him hostile, for defending nothing more than reality, Dawkins fights to keep textbooks in classes and holy texts out, we are still in the early days of a battle for education and acceptance as truth destroys many lies. It takes 2years of maths and physics at A level, a 3 year degree, arguably the hardest degree on earth, then a PHD for up to 4 years to have the ability to discuss astronomy with authority, even then you are a baby in the science of astronomy, a new postgraduate. Perhaps it puts your thoughts into perspective, no offence intended prologos. I am impressed that an octogenarian is asking such questions, but you are doing it with an agenda, you will enjoy it more just following the evidence, it is also more honest and more rewarding. snare x
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prologos
cofty very true, I was referring to earlier times, where they even mocked the Astronauts as levitating monkeys.
talking about POPULAR SCIENCE, the magazine, one of the highlights in my life, when, out of the blue, they featured one of my out-of-the-box thinking idea in a half-page spread.
Even then it helps to keep science opoular, entertaining, even if you have to use hyperbole.truthfully.
Snare&Racket, yes the hardest degree on earth and then with such sparse rewards. Honestly I dont think I have the right stuff to carry that endevour to the bitter finish. I knew my limitations.
yea, my agenda is to see the cracks, gaps, opening, -and prodding,- where and HOW the natural laws can endow the universe with the astonishing developments that we see.
Just watched the "Birds" treatment on PBS and the commentators were vascillating between the "evolutionary" and "total concept design" phrases.and
Take my orbit spacing observations. gravity and timing. could we one day see that gravitons have dual -WAVE-paricle characteristics?
here, I am in,- over my head
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BackseatDevil
I got that the general assumption here that we are in some sort of 'perfect' scenario right now – and the WTBTS and fundamentalists in general promote this concept.
Just because we are in a small and quiet neighborhood away from all the activity of the stars doesn't mean we are in perfect circumstance. The earth wobbles, the moon wobbles AND is drifting away, the sun's flares are dangerous, the universe itself is moving as a whole so shit keeps flying around (although not much in our area). When you take the lifetime of the stars and planets and the billions of years of conflict, you get something almost like the law of large numbers. After a while, you see a pattern of some things balancing out... but never FULLY balancing out. So just because someone takes 70 or 80 years out of the cosmos' lifespan and made it all about us doesn't mean it's actually ALL ABOUT US. And taking 10,000 years or so for man to evolve into what we are today is NOTHING when compared to the magnitude of the universe in whatever direction it is going, either to perfection or to destruction – it doesn't matter as it takes billions of years to get there and we are just talking about US - a millisecond on the cosmos calender.
We are all just one tiny sliver on one tiny speck with one tiny planet with one tiny human with one tiny thought that says... GOD DID THIS JUST FOR US.
Actually the laws of physics did it, and per the nature of movement, gravity, and studied by Isaac Newton we know even things in upheaval eventually settle to a happy medium... where animals like us can flourish and waste time overthinking things.
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Viviane
correct me if I am wrong, so others will learn from my mistaken beliefs
That's been done hundreds of times and you haven't learned a thing. No more.
you set yourself up to be corrected in a big way.[again]
And yet you didn't actually show were you were right and I was wrong. So...nonsense, again.
it is amazing that the back and forth has shown the many kind of BALL games, periodicly governed there are in the universe form the one=cell to the big-bang marble size universe. and the many rules
Utter nonsense.
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prologos
Backseatdevil: so true, and
wasting time with ball games, pucks even, flattened disks,- not just playing them, but watching them ad nauseum, or thinking about them.
the luxury of having carved out a timely niche just in time in a tooth and claw world.
tank you.