Please explain God's wisdom in Judges19;22-30

by jam 53 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Laika
    Laika

    So in other words people will go all willynilly

    when there is no King, go berserk.

    This is what the author of Judges is trying to convey, yes. You don't have to agree with his opinion to understand the one he has.

    What kind of mental state were these people in. They needed a mythical

    God a higher power to keep them in check..

    As I've told you, the point to this story is that they were looking to a king to keep them in check, not a higher power.

    So how did he decide which body part would be sent to the 11 tribes.

    Who's he? If you mean god it doesn't say that god made the decision (or suggested it) If you mean the master of the house, I have no idea how he decided.

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    I don't see this story as related to God, per se. He didn't do the crimes against this woman, humans did. But most people apparently knew that was wrong, otherwise the resulting conflict wouldn't have happened, nor would it even have been written down as if it was important.

    It is no more or less evil than many of the other events recorded in various parts of the Bible. Murder, incest, more murder, more incest, genocide, rape, and so on. If we ask how it explains God's wisdom, I think we'd have to ask the same question of all the other various bloody accounts, wouldn't we?

    I would guess that the obvious parallel with the story of Lot and the men of Sodom might have been implied in the relating of this event in Judges, though. It seems very similar, and was perhaps suggesting that Israel had gotten as bad as Sodom once was since this act of violence could happen. In that, it could be argued, is the 'wisdom' you may be looking for. Perhaps this shocking tale could serve as a serious wake-up call for people to get back to behaving like decent people instead of vicious, sick animals who would do this to a woman. Presumably the Law code would have called for the death penalty for the entire lot of them, based on their intentions, which would be breaking and entering and gay rape, right? So...I'm pretty sure enforcement of the Law or belief in its value might have caused these fellows to not do that. That's the best I can glean from it.

    --sd-7

  • Dismissing servant
    Dismissing servant

    I am not sure, but I think according to most scholars this story in Judges is older than the Story of Lot in Genesis. Probably some detail in the story of Lot is a copy of this story.

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    Dismissing servant--Mind officially blown. Interesting. If I ever get into a Bible research mood again, maybe I'll have to check that out.

    --sd-7

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    So there was no King, and things went to hell. It was YHWH who said that Israel should have no human King. Then YHWH allows it and says, " I told you so! See what happens? Ho's get cut." I sense a pattern.

    DD

  • jam
    jam

    You damned if you do you damned if you don't. King or no king, God has a

    problem.

  • krejames
    krejames

    the moral of this passage is that heterosexuality is an abomination and perversion ;)

  • nancy drew
    nancy drew

    judges is full of bizarre and insane stories like the one where Samson captures 300 foxes ties their tails together and adds a torch and the philistines fields go up in smoke wow!

    The wisdom behind that is mind boggling and perhaps a little disturbing

  • confusedandalone
    confusedandalone

    " Samson captures 300 foxes ties their tails together and adds a torch and the philistines fields go up in smoke wow!"

    Yes that story is my personal tool that I use to slap my mom and dad around.

  • Heartofaboy
    Heartofaboy

    I recall now how Judges 19 was once explained at a meeting, probably in a bible reading.

    Apparently homosexuality was (is in JWland) considered so heinous a sin it was seen to be less of a sin to offer up the poor woman so heterosexual sex could take place instead.

    The logic of JW lalaland.................just so the OT god doesn't seem such an arse.

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