A beautifullly expressed profile of this person and possibly any witness when they are "witnessing." With a grasp of the situation such as you have, you may well be effective regardless of her reason for calling on you.
My Elderette is returning today to CONDUCT another conversation...
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blondie
I would suggest picking a specific topic you both agree on as soon as possible and keep on topic.
http://changingminds.org/techniques/conversation/interrupting/stop_interrupting.htm
Can I finish?
A simple and very powerful method of hanging onto the talking stick is to is ask the other person if you can finish what you are saying.
This can be done in varying levels of politeness, from assertively saying 'can I finish' without pause in the continuous stream of words, to asking the other person nicely and waiting for permission.
...and when we reach -- can I finish -- the end of the year...
-- Sorry, Mike, I won't be long --
-- Jen, you've made your point, now it's my turn --
-- I'm sorry. I do want to hear your viewpoint. Is it ok if I finish the explanation first? -- thanks --
In an argument, when a person addresses one topic with another, seemingly-related topic in order to distract attention from the main topic, it's called a "straw man". People who have weak points or just don't want to answer a question or address the issue use straw man tactics in the hope that others will be sufficiently distracted to abandon the primary argument.
In general conversation, someone who changes topics instead of replying is someone who is either 1) uncomfortable with what you're saying or 2) more interested in hearing their own voice than yours.How Does the Straw Man Argument Work? A straw man argument can be annoyingly effective because in response you often have to spend time clarifying what your position is not instead of what your position is. Here's an example. Let's say you believe genetically engineered crops should be more regulated, and your opponent believes genetically engineered crops should be less regulated. Your opponent could use the straw man technique by saying something like “If we take away farmers' ability to grow genetically engineered crops, if we eliminate that option, people will go hungry, nay, people will starve. Unlike my opponent, I choose to use the technology available to us and save lives.” In that statement, your opponent has argued against eliminating genetically engineered crops instead of against simply increasing regulation. He's put up a straw man--no crops at all, people will starve--so he can knock it down. Another Straw Man Argument Example Here's another example. Maybe you're arguing with a friend about global warming. You think the government should raise fuel efficiency standards to cut down the amount of C02 we release over the next 20 years. Your friend thinks cars have nothing to do with it, and as you argue, he says something like “Our cities are built so that we have to drive cars. Your solution will kill the economy. How would people get to work without cars? It'll never work.” At that point you probably start twitching and can hardly wait to shout “When did I say we had to get rid of cars? That's not what I said at all!” You're twitching because your friend has thrown out a straw man argument. He's responding to an extreme version of your proposal that's easier to shoot down than your real proposal. He's arguing against the extreme idea that we need to get rid of all cars because it's easier than arguing against the moderate idea that we need to raise fuel efficiency. -
See more at: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/what-is-a-straw-man-argument?page=1#sthash.EphaTEa8.dpuf
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ABibleStudent
Hi Faithful Witness, I wish you the BEST!
DITTO what cultBgone said about slowing Miss K down by at least repeating what she said back to her and then asking her a simple question about what she said.
It is very important that when you ask simple questions to sound sincere and inquisitive like you are trying to understand what Miss K is trying to teach you. You may become very frustrated listening to Miss K, so visualize in your mind something that makes you very happy so that your body language and tone of voice does not betray what you are thinking. Do you have a smartphone? Although it is illegal to record conversations without the other person knowing about it, recording your conversations with Miss K may help you to listen to how you sound to Miss K. After listening to the recording, just delete it.
Listen to what Miss K says to detect her using thought-stopping platitudes. If she does, try to overcome them if you feel you know how to or at least remember them for later.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
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jookbeard
every dumb stupid question she slings your way , sling 2 or 3 back.
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Terry
Anybody who has been in the Org 42 years has SEEN the changes, twists, flip-flops, backtracks and excuses and
has had to swallow the big lump without water.
1970 was at the cusp of FIVE YEARS OF WORLDWIDE hysteria focusing on 1975.
The Guiness Book of World Records listed the TRUTH THAT LEADS TO ETERNAL LIFE (little blue book) as the #11 best seller of all time.***
Sold : 107 million copies of WORTHLESS junk!
What was in that book? NOTHING THEY CAN TEACH TODAY!
Why?
They lied, exaggerated, pumped up hysteria and made flat out statements the world could not last past 1975!
(Sidebar: The book is so embarrassing for them today--they revised it in 1981 changing the flat-out predictions. Today, when somebody asks for a copy--it is the revised version they provide.)
It would sure be nice to work the name of that book into the conversation.
I bet you the Truth book was what your Elderette studied in order to come in to the Org in the first place.
"So, what did book did you study when you first began with the JW's who called on you?"
That should do the trick. Followed by, "Oh, do you have one with you? Why not? Can I get one? What do you mean you don't use it any more?"
You see the THINGS SHE LEARNED to convince her she should seek refuge in Jehovah's looney tune cartoon world WAS DEAD WRONG!
They hooked her with mis-statements, fraudulent premises and false chronology.
Keep all that in mind--will you?
http://vendyxiao.com/top-50-best-selling-books-of-all-the-time/
" In the first three years of its circulation more than 400,000 people studied the book"
I bet all of them are Disfellowshipped by now!
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blondie
Here are some topics www.jwfacts.com suggests:
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/questions-to-ask-a-jehovahs-witness.php
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FadeToBlack
Thanks for that info about the 'Truth' book Terry. I will be busy the rest of this weekend trying to find both copies.
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LoisLane looking for Superman
Yes. I too , am waiting, holding my breath in suspense, to hear what comes next.
I have never had a Bible student like you Faithful Witness.
I think you just might help in waking up some hardcore, never looked at the "picture" straight on, before, sisters™.
LoisLane
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Island Man
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