Where do we go when we die?

bsand20

My best friend of 14 years and maid of honor passed away 2 months ago at age 32 after battling breast cancer for 6 years. I haven't been the same since for many reasons.

As a JW kid I believed 144,000 chosen went to heaven, the good people would be resurrected including those who didn't have a chance to hear about Jehovah, and the rest, which were of other religions and bad people, died and would cease to exist. Again, because I was a kid when I left, I never really understood the JW position on death and why they came to their conclusion. Once I became a Christian, my belief was good people went to heaven and bad people went to hell, plain and simple. And I always assumed Catholics and Christians believed the same when it came to death, but I had never heard of purgatory till my Catholic friends told me to pray for my friend when offering comfort. Well, now there's a daily battle going on in my head about what I should believe, and it also has me wondering the real anwswer of JW belief.

What is the biblical reason JWs base their belief in the resurrection on Paradise earth? While we're at it....do you all believe the dead can see/hear us and are around us like they say? Will they know us when we are "reunited" in heaven?

NAVYTOWN

As much as I'd like to believe otherwise, I have come to the conclusion that when we die we are just dead. No heaven, no hell, no afterlife of any kind. And I don't think it matters at all which ( if any) religion a person subscribes to. Every human being ends up in the grave....forever.

steve2

Oh gee, this is the sort of question religious people of every hue and shade love you to ask so they can bore you with their earnestly dull answers. You ask this ever-ready question so be prepared to hear the sound of opinion.

villagegirl

NAVYTOWN thanks , that is so helpful and hopeful - not

bsand20 - even scientists who study the universe, believe in

other dimensions. No one can say for sure the exact nature of

what exists in this universe. Only 4% of what is out there is

known to us the other 96% is completely unknown.

If God is pure energy or light and there are other conscious beings

in non material form, perhaps that is what the Bible refers to.

The survival of consciousness but in another dimension may be

is what lies beyond the death of our bodies, since nothing is lost

or destroyed according to science, but merely changes form.

Over centuries the idea of life in some form after death has

persisted in all cultures. If a man dies, shall he live again ?

The classic question Job asked. Jesus said "I came so they may

have everlasting life." Don't allow non believers to extinguish your

hope and love of God, just because of their own disappointment

and loss off faith. Whether you live in some other form or are

resurrected to earth or some other earth, who can say really ?

You have the freedom to find your own answers.

punkofnice

What is the biblical reason JWs base their belief in the resurrection on Paradise earth?

Out of context scripture. Probably some skewed Millerite rubbish.

While we're at it....do you all believe the dead can see/hear us and are around us like they say?

Nope. I can't see of the dead any nor ever have. You'd think it'd be a 2 way thing. Normally if you see someone then they can see you unless they're hiding and even then you could find them. I'll believe it when I see it.

Will they know us when we are "reunited" in heaven?

There is no evidence that 'Heaven' even exists besides some fanciful wish found in some illogical old books.

When whichever god it is reveals themselves, then I'll know.

I need something obvious to make me believe religious stuff now.

yadda yadda 2

The bad news is, we are just like the animals and return to dust when we die, forever. But the good news is that the unlocking of the DNA code and leading edge research and breakthrough's in human genome longevity has pretty much already shown that the human lifespan can be double or even tripled one day. In fact, I've always held the view that the human genetic potential, in many hundreds or thousands of years to come, will one day be fully realised so that a typical human lifespan will one day be closer to 1,000 years rather than 100. It's no coincidence the Bible is full of genealogy claiming people lived for hundreds of years in the ancient past. So there is no hope for eternal life, but there is real hope for human longevity to be far, far longer than it is now, although, sadly, not in ours or our grandchildren's life-times.

The Searcher

Scripturally, I don't believe ANY person - apart from Christ has gone to heaven! (John 3:13; Acts 2:34)

The Bible never promised humans that they could 'graduate' from earth to heaven by some means.

Also, if my dead mother, father, ex-girlfriend, and grandparents were all in heaven right now - watching me going through all my physical and emotional problems, it would be HELL for them, not HEAVEN, because they'd be anguished at not being able to save me from my situation!

Death brings a release and peace from life's sufferings and heartaches. (Eccl. 3:19,20; 9:5)

What happens after that, is down to each person to think about and believe for themselves.

smiddy

As far as I can tell OBLIVION .

No one has come back to tell us otherwise .

Lazarus ? Is their a first person account of his experience undergoing death and resurrectuion ? Or are we to rely on other peoples testimony.

Jesus ? Again their is only the reliance on other peoples testimony to his resurrection . All second or third hand testimonies.

Jesus is supposed to be the greatest prophet who ever lived , yet he never put pen to paper (so to speak) any prophecys at all.

We have major prophets and minor prophets in the old testament who put pen to paper , but not Jesus , and nobody has heard a word from him .

So as far as I can tell ? OBLIVION.

smiddy

quellycatface

I would like to think there was another place to go when we die.

I will try and let you know on jw.net when I am there.

Phizzy

To the same place we were before we were conceived.

Where do we go when we die?

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