by breakfast of champions 56 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Well...what defines natural attraction?
I can be attracted to someone of the same sex but do not want to have a sexual relationship with them.
Male and female equals the ability to reproduce. That seems natural to me. Anything else stops the reproduction process unless science intervens.
How long would the human population expand if we were all gay without reproducing?
SW
NotNew,
Researchers conduct these studies by measuring responses to images, etc., such as pupil dilation, respiration and heart rates and of course genitalia response. As for the rest of your comments, these have been addressed in detail previously on this site. Why would you think we wouldn't reproduce? Gays want and have children now, and science is rarely involved. Have you heard of surrogates? Humans would work all of that out. Please research the previous OPs on this.
DJS...really?
Take science and anything else out and it doesn't fit.
I can be a single male or female and adop a child...and have a child.
Show me a case where two of the same sex had a child without intervention!
SW
By impregnating your straight friend. Or hiring someone to become impregnated. Or hiring two people, one to impregnate the other. That's called business, not science.
Notnew, do you remember when you chose to be heterosexual?
Yes, and if all humans imitated the Pope, the human race would likewise die out because he is celibate. Considering that gays are at most 5% of the population, I seriously doubt that we have anything to worry about. OVERPOPULATION is what is leading to the depletion of the Earth's natural resources.
There you said it...someone or science has to come in and save the race.
SW
NotNew,
I can't argue with that!!! ".. .someone or science has to come in and save the race."
NBC's show "The New Normal" is about a gay couple hiring a surrogate to have their child. Google this topic; it's a growth industry.
Outrage, disgust and contempt are some of the feelings I have upon reading about this latest assault against LGBT people by the WTS at this IC. Yet there was a time that I would have been in total agreement with these sentiments--and I'm a gay man. For many years I was convinced that the WTS was God's organization and so its take on any subject was in line with divine standards. That meant for years I suffered the self-loathing and low self-esteem many LGBT people have. I didn't flush that out of my life until I made the decision to leave the Witnesses for good and all some years ago.
As for the man who claims to be free of his former sexual attractions, he's lying to himself and to his audience. He may have convinced himself and others that he is no longer gay. He may even marry a woman as further proof that he will never desire sexual contact with another man again. But as I pointed out to my judicial committee, all such "experiences" are nothing more than fairy-tales, and they have all the reality those stories do. That doesn't mean they have no effect on others. I wonder how many gay and lesbian youths were listening to this talk and were filled with false hope. How many older adults came away from this session thinking that their sexuality was nothing more than a bad habit that could be kicked just like smoking? On the other hand, how many others will find their despair grow and come to believe that since God has not answered their prayers for a cure, they must be worthless and that suicide is the only solution left?
I have long maintained that the WTS has the blood of many LGBT people on its hands. I told my judicial committee that suicide is the third-leading cause of death among young American men aged fifteen to twenty-four. How many of them were gay cannot be known, but we can be sure they make up a large segment of these victims. I asked the committee how many of these were young male Witnesses. They gave me no answer, but the looks of dread on their faces said it all. Despite this grim reality, the WTS has chosen to continue to spread its malicious and uniformed propaganda about this very sensitive and serious topic.
Since leabing the Witnesses, I haven't entertained any notion of returning. Threads like this one have only strengthened that resolve because I know that would be the equivalent of an emotional and spiritual death sentence. At the same time, I have enormous empathy for those still trapped, particularly gays and lesbians who only see the darkness deepening the longer they remain associated with this execrable cult. I hope they will find the will and courage to get out and lead the lives they were meant to lead and, if that is their choice, with a loving partner who will give them unconditionaland unqualified support. I was fortunate enough to have found such a man and am all the better off for it.
Quendi
DJS ...thanks
SW
