Stupid paragraph in this weekends wt study

by stuckinarut2 51 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  blondie

  Of course, the assumption is that if he were at home he would do these things and that most jw fathers are too busy doing WTS administrative things, "helping" non-jws or non-family jws, doing things to suck up to the elders, CO, DO to make advancement in the organization. The last congregation I was in had 5 elders that traveled all week for their jobs. Others were so busy doing jw stuff, their wives and children never saw them, that the wives mowed the lawn for 25 years because hubby was never available. I have seen elder families disintegrate, all end up df'd because there was no family life.

  *** w95 10/1 p. 15 par. 8 Parents and Children: Put God First! ***

  Clearly, elders with family responsibilities can benefit from support. The above-quoted Watchtower noted that a Christian wife can be of support to her husband. It said: “She can make it as convenient as possible for him to prepare his various assignments, and help to save precious time for him and for herself by having a good schedule in the home, having meals on time, being ready to leave for congregation meetings promptly. . . . Under the direction of her husband, the Christian wife can do much to train up the children in the way they should go to please Jehovah.” (Proverbs 22:6) Yes, the wife was created to be “a helper,” and her husband will wisely welcome her assistance. (Genesis 2:18)
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  ohnightdivine

  I have a few Filipino friends, and I know too well what many go through in that country. This week and the previous week's articles only irritates me. The nerve. Many Filipino experience calamities and have to endure corruption from the government, crimes, etc. Even people earning regularly would be broke instantly if they get sick and need hospitalization. A month's treatment for cancer is already half a year's pay for many Filipinos.

  WT is very callous and ends up denigrating these people who have no other choice.

  And by the way, not all Filipinos work abroad as domestic helpers. One of my friends is working as a physician in the US; the other, a chemical engineer.
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  TG-Jasper

  I was raised by a single mother (as far as I can understand from the little bits I've heard, my father kicked her out when she wouldn't stop preaching to him and his parents). Every morning she read the text at breakfast; she pioneered and cleaned houses while I was at school; we attended every meeting and prepared in great depth for all of them; she enforced extra family study every week; I struggled to do my homework while she was cooking or doing housework or after she went to bed; we trudged around the blocks on Saturdays and often Sundays as well.

  My mother got a small allowance from the government for being a single parent. She struggled to pay the bills and put food on the table and petrol in the car (in fact, sometimes we walked everywhere for months on end because she couldn't aford to keep the car running), but money went in the box every week. If my grandparents gave me some money as a present, whether it was $5 or $50, my mother forced me to put it in the box.

  Meanwhile, she was too busy with her ministry and her hopes for the future and her goals for both of us in the organisation that she had no idea about anything that was going on in my head and in my life.

  I did get baptised when I was 16 but I left when I was 18. I don't believe my baptism meant anything since I'd never been allowed to think.

  How are children supposed to "make the truth their own" if they are not allowed to know about anything else?

  My mother is likely one of those sitting at home tonight, praying through her tears, asking where she went wrong. Where she went wrong was in joining that dangerous cult in the first place, but I don't know if she will ever understand that. She actually seems to believe in it!
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  TG-Jasper

  True point, Blondie... In my mother's congregation an elder's son got DF'ed. I heard he joined the army after that (probably because after growing up in the JWs with an elder for a father he didn't know how to think or decide anything for himself, so he needed to find someone else to push him around).
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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  “Ask the elders for Scriptural advice....The elders cannot make decisions for you, but they can help you make choices that will lead to happiness in the long run"

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  Isn't this a little like asking a homeless person how to be successful in life?
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  WTWizard

  Providing funds in an emergency? To some random member of the congregation, perhaps the scumbag that is always putting you down because you are getting a few nice things? To me, this is blatant communism and is soon to be enforced, at least at the local hounder level and as "brazen conduct" if you are assigned someone to help out in an emergency and you do not, perhaps because they do not deserve it. Plus, you are supposed to forgive? To me, that is the archetype of the perfect slave.

  And why are they donating to the Worldwide Damnation Fund? Suppose they were to take everything they put in that fund, and spend it all on silver and kept the silver. Inside of the years 2010-14, I wonder how many ounces of silver some of them would have. Then, the dollar becomes toilet paper. Silver's value goes back up to where 1/10 ounce of silver was a good wage for a day's hard labor. With all that silver they could have had, they have the nerve to expect me to help out those short-sighted scumbags that donated toward the damnation of my future? Or, how much could they have had toward protection against the next series of blackouts? We have had plenty of warnings. The blackout of 2003, ice storms, earthquakes, Sandy, Irene, the Superbowl 2013, the warning of a possible false flag grid down this past November 13-15, and so on--I have been using each of these events as a warning to make sure I am prepared, and anyone else could have done the same. So, when the lights start going out regularly for rolling blackouts or the venue goes pitch dark due to an electrical outage, I am just going to do nothing but laugh (and, if I am somehow forced there, I will use my Fenix LD22 on its lowest setting to sneak out and not help anyone else).

  With all the warnings, the best they could have done would have been to keep the good job, donate nothing, and put as much as possible into silver or gold, or prepare for other emergencies. Soon enough the job would go because the currency would become toilet paper. But, every ounce of silver represents 10 days of not having to labor. For sure, those at the top know enough astrology to know when the dollar is going to become toilet paper. One could work and save (in silver because that is going to appreciate the most), and then focus on the ministry instead of laboring once the dollar does become toilet paper. But no, they have to do poverty workings so people will always have to work extra hard for nothing. And I am not divulging where my silver is, and they are getting precisely none.
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  sp74bb

  It seems that imigrants has turned up to be the new JW.org enemies after the university studies...
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  DATA-DOG

  The entire history of the WTBTS a string of "points being made" to address a particular need of the Corporation at any given time with little or no thought to the ramifications. Do they even perceive the need to reason in a forward manner? It's a never-ending game of moral, legal, and doctrinal Wack-a-mole!!

  They are reactionary because they have no divine wisdom or spirit-direction. The WTBTS does not know what they DONT KNOW. They are a sinking submarine. Each day, week, month, year, decade, they scramble to repair leaks that they have created because their utter hubris took them far beyond their depth. DIVE, DIVE!!!! LOL!!!!

  DD
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  BluesBrother

  16 Upon arriving in a more prosperous country without her mate and children, one sister told the elders: “We had to make great sacrifices for me to come here. My husband even had to step down from serving as an elder. So I really hope that Jehovah will bless this move.” Jehovah always blesses decisions based on faith in him, but how can he bless a decision that is contrary to his will, especially when it involves needlessly giving up sacred privileges?

  Really? This presumes that "God's blessing" makes a difference to the day to day lives of people. I have yet to see evidence of that. Also, if that be true then who can really judge what is "contrary to his will" in a certain situation. Certainly not elders in,presumably, New York about the situation of someone on the other side of the world. Who are they to judge that a man gave up eldership "needlessly" ?. Did not Jesus say:

  Luke 6.37

  “Moreover, stop judging, and you will by no means be judged; + and stop condemning, and you will by no means be condemned. Keep on forgiving,* and you will be forgiven."

  I saw an on-line post on a different site from a dub in a land with a high number of immigrant women. They said that in their congregation half the "sisters" had been brought to tears by these two Watchtower articles. They are in this situation and now have a dillemma. Do they obey "The Slave", and return home to face the displeasure of their family who depend on the money they send home? Or do they stay where they are, worry about their children even more and be in the bad-books of their congregation??

  The WTS has a lot to answer for with this , they have failed to make clear that it is a personal decision that may at times be necessary
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  DATA-DOG

  I told my family ( as they have their opinions on last weeks"study" ), " Do you think that we should be judging people in third world countries from our ivory towers in the USA?? We have no clue what real persecution or struggles are for the most part. How can we Monday morning quarter-back these people?"

  Of course, most JWs simply accept the ramblings of the gibbering buddy as the Gospel truth. When their predictions seem to come true because they happened upon some common sense advice, the head-bobbing and hallelujahs begin!

  I believe that migrant workers are the new " weak ones." As someone else mentioned, Higher Education in prosperous nations and just having a decent job for third world countries is the new WTBTS "problem." They CANNOT exist without the poor and downtrodden. Without a need for their services, the WTBTS WILL go out of business. I think it's inevitable because if a system is unsustainable, it WILL fail. It's just a matter of time.

  DD