by chrisuk 320 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse
frankiespeaking, agreed, it is interesting to see the spectrum of attraction manias. you used to fantasize (increasing in size) about old teachers, you said?
Is there another dimension to the Alpha elder, CO., GB. worship that has not been talked about?
openly?
So did we all agree that the original thread title was the problem?
Richard Dawkins defends “mild pedophilia,” says it does not cause “lasting harm”
is completely innacurate and misleading, instead it should be:
Richard Dawkins says “mild pedophilia” he suffered did not cause him any “lasting harm”
Less controversial but then less for the theists to be overly critical of.
The irony of course is that many theist organizations seem to be the breeding grounds and playground for pedophiles.
I can see the reasonableness of say Tennesee's 4 year difference* because it would be a shame to have a young person life ruined by a too ridged law reguarding age while you are just getting used to these new feelings and what not.
In Michigan the age of consent is 16. There is no similar age clause. Two 15 year olds are breaking the consent law. That is bad for the kid who turns 16 and gets prosecuted for being with his under 16 girl or boyfriend.
I am a theist, but even I couldn't believe Richard Dawkins would say something like the thread title. Though, I believe he is mistaken that he wasn't harmed permanently from what happened to him. You can get counseling, but it it always with you and it always affects you. It is weaved into the fabric of your being.
The irony of course is that many theist organizations seem to be the breeding grounds and playground for pedophiles.
Any place you have children, you will find adults who prey on children, young teens and older teens for sexual gratification. Churches, synagogues and the like are no exception. Police and medical workers, caretakers are always getting busted for child molestation and pornography. What does the organization or school do about it, when it is discovered, is what's key.
Of course Richard was affected, but was he harmed? Only
if he might have lost his interest in OLDER males, an iterest that could be easily triggered in a boarding schools everywhere.
For better or worse, the staement by a man of his prominence led to the enlightening discussion.
Flying sometimes we make the person an automatic victim by the ways the laws are. Richard Dawkins I think makes a good point about veiwpoints that lead to victimhood(assumed response of a victim) and all its psychological draw backs.
The child is a victim of child abuse. The child can get counseling and choose a different focus in life, this is true. This is not to say that they child will ever completely be free of the effects. Sexual abuse leaves scars.
I know Mr Dawkins claims 'no lasting harm" to himself from what would be considered inappropriate touching.
But how does he know? Sometimes there can be all sorts of personaltiy distortions that if you traced them back
they will have started after such "harmless" events.
It is impossible to know what he would have been like if he had never experienced those things.
But how does he know? ...
FFS! Stop grasping at straws. The topic is bullshit. It should have ended on with bohm's post on page one...
yup I would say so too - that this has been an enlightening discussion. it has certainly made me re-watch several of Dawkins youtube videos and I actually developed a liking for the man and his style. He is good teacher. I was prepared to feel sorry for him because of the experiences he had as a child (remember that he'd had to fight off older teenagers too who desired him sexually) but all that vanished once I was caught up in what he describes in his videos. Have you guys seen the ones where he rebuts intelligent design?
I like his science the only difference of opinion I have with him is to do with his worldview.
