Is the Watchtower Intentionally Trying to Force People to Leave the Organization?

by kneehighmiah 45 Replies latest jw friends

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  Phizzy

  They have two choices only as survival techniques, become more main-stream (more normal) or become more controlling and culty.

  It seems they have chosen the latter. Both routes would lose them adherents. To go mainstream would involve dropping a lot of the wacky teachings that make them different, and actually acknowledging Christ as the Head of the Congregation, which Scripture tells us He is, but the G.B tell us they are, not him.

  If they chose that route they would lose the older ones, and of course their offspring would go too, it is already happening that they lose their young members in droves, but the older family members stay.

  The even higher control culty route loses them fewer members, but more will wake up than if they just jogged along as at present, wacky teachings, high control, but all at a level that the present R&F are used to.

  The constant screeching and screaming from the GB that they should be obeyed is what finally got on my nerves and made me wake up, this new ramping up of Control will do that for many more.
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  Julia Orwell

  Interestingly, only about 2-3 years ago they had pics in the Watchtowers and dramas representing mothers crying over their children who had left jw. This is a real shift from when they used to say that it is understandable that parents would mourn a df. Many parents I knew still helped their df kids and talked to them in order to have a relationship with their grandkids. This will cause a lot of distress to these closet humans.
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  Zoos

  leaving_quietly: They will call it a "sifting" or "a refining".

  For the November 14th Watchtower is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints and their marrow, and is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart.
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  dropoffyourkeylee

  The WT writers (or whoever it is that decides what the subject matter will be) are always reactionary. So what this article tells me is that there a lot of JWs who associate with their DFd children and relatives, go to weddings etc at other churches, take blood, donate blood, don't hold a family study night, etc. The articles are written because the writers perceive there being a problem. A lot of people deep down simply don't agree with the WT.

  But the tone of the 11/14 WT comes across as harsh, at least to me. An interested thinking person who is exploring jw.org for the first time who may read the Nov 14 WT would no doubt be disillusioned quickly.
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  Vidiot

  Good thread, and - IMO - correct.
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  done4good

  I hate using cliches, but if an illustrated picture is worth 1000 words, a photograph like the one in 11/15, is worth a million. The sheer amount of discussion over this subject on this thread and others is proof of that. This level of manipulation is almost unprecedented, and very frightening.

  I have mentioned before I noticed a few key inflection points in the organization over the years since 2001, (four years before I left for good), the first being the DC that year. The tone was gloom and doom, not heard since the '70s. I began to slowly wake up then. After leaving, the Sept. 2007 KM article concerning, (not), doing research outside of what is provided by the organization, is another, (more people began to wake up). Overlapping generations in 2010, is yet another, and more woke up slowly and continue to since.

  The picture of those somber folks in the basement will be yet another dissonance inducing inflection point that will slowly cause many to wake up. You can be sure of that.

  d4g
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  UFCFan

  Can anyone link to the leaked watchtower? I want to check this out.
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  SAHS

  Remember, religions have always used one thing in particular to ensnare people: FEAR! Much of the human defects of character actually stem from fear; i.e., shame, guilt, pride, jealousy, anger, etc. Fear is negative and destructive, but unfortunately it can be very effective – and thus it has always been used and generously exploited by charlatans – especially of the religious persuasion – since the beginning of time!
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  Balaamsass2

  Put up or get out!

  
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  BucketShopBill

  Ok, that leaves the Pedophiles, Self-Righteous Pioneers and Elders with their creepy wives, whose is left? They chase all the weak single mothers out of the congregation, that means the Pedophiles won't have anyone to groom, their going to leave. If the Pedophiles leave, the Elders who enjoy the Wine Tastings and Food Festivals put on by the Pedophiles might become weak because their not going to receive the praise and smoke being blown up their ass by the Pedophiles. The Elderettes will miss Meetings because they won't have the weak Witnesses to compare themselves with. I think it might implode, who will remain?