WTS engages in terrorism on NYC landmarks!

by Tallyman 30 Replies latest jw friends

  • joelbear
    joelbear

    Interesting belief system Tally. It clearly has brought you much happiness and peace of mind.

    I am not pro-Watchtower. I am against all forms of organized religion. I believe God touches each of us individually and does not need an organization of any kind to communicate with us. Personal prayer and personal blessings from God are what I believe in.

    I think mankins will probably destroy himself by way of his continuing quarreling. What God has in store next time will tell.

    You answer my question indirectly. Will terrorists destroy every building in the world? If not, what will your God do when he returns? Will Jesus destroy any remaining buildings and/or people? Will non believers be tormented eternally? You constantly harp on the destructiveness of the Witnesses' god. What will your God spare?

    I don't subscribe to the Watchtower, so I don't know if it is printed in Arabic or not, so the answer to that inquiry is, I don't know.

    Joel

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    I have saw pictures like this my whole life , being raised as
    a JW. I agree with Dawn, these pictures left trauma in my mind
    as a child , that I am just now realizing. My youngest son, 7 yrs
    old is preoccupied with death , he has nightmares all the time.
    We left the JW about a year ago, but the damage was already done.
    He is afraid of armeggedon, and who will die, and how , he wants
    to know in graphic detail , how big the hail stones will be and if
    his friends will die!!!! It brings tears to my eys, I am know telling
    him that all good hearted people will not die like that and that
    Jesus will save us all. More or less that such a terrible destruction
    would be coming from Satan's hands, not God's. I just dont know what
    eles to tell him, he has to hear something, and since I am not sure
    about what I really beleive , this seems to calm him down. But you
    made the point Tallyman, about it being child abuse----- absolutely!!
    I am a year later still dealing with a child that is extreamly
    sensitive in nature and dealing with the aftermath of all he heard
    and saw being in the JW. I hate them for that. Weekly meetings, talking about doom and destruction,, not for a young child to hear.
    I didnt understand that at the time, I was brainwashed too. I am
    trying very hard to reverse the WT bullcrap out of his head, but it
    is taking awhile. I hope that this issue will also be addressed, by
    Silentlambs. Because this kind of fear tactic destroyes a childs
    self esteem, their personaility, their innocence. IF only I would have seen , this earlier, the real truth about the WT, ... but
    all I can do now is pick up the pieces. How can a child ever love
    God or Jesus, by the way the WT depicts them???? Maybe that is why
    so many of us as adults are having such a hard time with our relationship with God???!!!!

  • joelbear
    joelbear

    Lots of people like to imagine god getting rid of all the people they don't like.

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman

    WhyNow2000:

    I don't post much here...but when I see a subject titled
    such as yours it makes me sick....
    Whyow Now!

    How does it make you sick, sugar booger?
    Like, do you run a temperature?
    Are you suffering a tummy ache?
    Do you feel as if you want to vomit?
    Headache?
    What?

    When the postman "delivers" a letter to you from someone you are not
    fond of, or just gives you a stack of junk mail, do you express
    to him or her that what you just saw makes you sick?

    Do you often go after the messenger instead of the message?

    I'll let you in on a l'il sekret.
    The subject title of this thread? Well, it was modified to be more
    "sensitive"... in fact a wonderful poster named "Mimilly" helped
    me come up with a working title which would be just that-
    "more sensitive".

    (Mimilly, got yer ears on? - WhyNow doesn't like your ideas...)

    Now, title aside, was there ANYTHING about the content of the post,
    and the link it directed you to, that made you feel sick?

    I've gotten a LOT of comments from people who were sickened when they
    saw the full Horrocaust the Watchtowerkult "Art" Dept. has engaged in
    over the years.
    It IS Nasty, isn't it?

    I am not fond of people who try to get attention by any means necessay.
    Whyow! me neither!

    Hey, did you know the United States is presently at war with Terrorists? ... and did you know that New York City landmarks are at risk of being attacked ... and did you know that U.S. Citizens were asked by our president to be on the look-out for ANY suspicious activity ... and when I saw that pic of NYC landmarks being "nuked"
    by the Propaganda Mill of the Watchtowerkult ... well, doing my civic duty ... I felt I just had to post them here and elsewhere to alert the citizens and the authorities.

    What are YOU doing to help out in this time of National Crisis?

    Now, just today, a guy named Jim, emailed me, and had the exact
    OPPOSITE reaction as you to my post and webpages.

    LOve, Tallyman

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    From: "Jim ______" < j_____@____and_______.com>
    To: < [email protected]>
    Subject: The Watchtower Stuff
    Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:24:37 -0600

    Always enjoy witnessing a mask being torn away to reveal ugliness. Especially when it's a theocratic institution.
    But perhaps that may be from living in Utah for eight years.
    Kudos on a job well done.


    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
  • Tallyman
    Tallyman

    (joelbear:)

    Interesting belief system Tally.
    j-bo,

    WHAT belief system?
    You asked ONE question, and I, out of courtesy, despite your non-response,
    answered your ONE question. Such does not comprise a Belief SYSTEM.
    Sheesh!

    It clearly has brought you much happiness and peace of mind.

    My faith in God, if that is what you are referencing, HAS indeed brought
    me happiness, and a peace of mind, that has really helped support me
    through some recent trials and tribulations.
    I went into Christianity with my eyes open. (This was PRE-WTKult)
    I knew it would not be easy to be a genuine disciple of Christ.
    Irony is, I went into the Watchtower as a purist, thinking that HERE
    were the true Christians- people with guts to REALLY practice the
    teaching of Jesus Christ.

    Couldn't have made a bigger mistake.

    I look back at my 20-year "sojourn" through the Watchtower,
    as that of a kind of wandering prodigal son.
    I'm back to Christianity, now, after exiting the Kounterfeit Khristianity
    of the Watchtower Kult, and it has felt good...
    though, still, I'm not fooling myself that it will ever be easy
    to be a footstep follower of Jesus Christ.

    You, sadly, (I mean it, I feel sorry for you and those like you)
    being RAISED in the Watchtowerkult, have nothing to 'fall back on',
    and that's gotta hurt. But you have the same promise and hope
    that I do, if you take it...

    I am not pro-Watchtower.

    Why do you want to be a Liar like that, j-bo?

    You have Dozens and Dozens of times here in this forum shown without
    question, that you are pro-Watchtower, a Watchtower-sympathizer,
    a Watchtowerkult-Apologist.
    So much so, that you were, you said, (but who can believe what you say)
    you were going back to the the Watchtower Kult, despite tons of evidence
    of how Wicked and Corrupt they are, and when you made the Big Announcement,
    the "Huggybears" FREEKED-OUT!
    Like here:

    * http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=19051&site=3

    You felt you owed the Huggybears an explanation, after one of your
    many Grandstanding "Exits"...

    And it was related to your Leaving Sanity and Going Back To the WTKult
    that my question to you were related, the questions which you totally
    ignored, and still haven't answered. Oh well.
    Looks like answers, in that regard from you, will not be forthcoming.

    You answer my question indirectly.

    No, I answered your question DIRECTLY.

    Will terrorists destroy every building in the world? If not, what will your God do when he returns? Will Jesus destroy any remaining buildings and/or people?

    You're full of questions, which I just answered.
    Go back and re-read the answer. Carefully this time.

    Will non believers be tormented eternally?

    I believe that God will give everyone in this world EXACTLY what they want.

    If an atheist does not want God, or believe in God, I think that God
    will grant that person an Eternity without God.
    It would be giving exactly what the atheist wanted,
    even though they didn't expect to continue life, after death in this world.

    If a jehovah Witness wants with all his or her heart to live in a "paradise"
    earth, with a body of wavering, shifty, corrupt and evil men to lord it
    over them and create policy and doctrine and changing New Lite for all
    Eternity, I think that is EXACTLY what God will give the jehovah Witness.

    Eternity is a Big Place.

    You? I think that God will give YOU, in Eternity, exactly what you
    showed in this life you really wanted - not what you say you want,
    but what was demonstrated you really wanted, by how you lived your
    life in this world...
    You and everyone will get their "wish" granted by God.
    That is what I believe.

    Now, is that fair, or what?

    Why would God force something on someone that they never REALLY wanted?

    You constantly harp on the destructiveness of the Witnesses' god.

    You mean like "The Harp of God"? hey, that a jehovah book, by Rutherford.
    No.
    You might not like my "twanging", but since you are PRO-WATCHTOWER,
    I can understand your comment, that you don't like it, don't like to see it,
    when someone EXPOSES the Wicked Underbelly of the Kult You Love
    (and STILL want to return?)... but some of us, have a conscience,
    and I went into the Watchtower "Christianity", thinking I was serving
    my fellow man, and I helped recruit and convert people into the WTKult,
    and some are still in...
    now, as a man of conscience, how do you think that makes me feel?

    So, 20 years of Promoting a Wicked Watchtowerkult, I feel, even though
    God has forgiven me, I feel a need to do penance...
    and to help now, to expose the Evil Watchtower Kult, and help others
    wake up and make their exit, or warn them away BEFORE they ever
    get burned by the Kult.
    That is a thing I feel I must do,
    to continue to serve my fellowman and woman.

    That's why I made a website, to post Text and Images put out by the
    Watchtower, because it is their OWN Words and Illustrations that will
    be their undoing, and I just want to make sure that as many people
    as possible get to see it.

    Where's YOUR website like that, j-bo?
    A website to help people AVOID the Watchtower and all its trappings?
    When I click onto your site, alls I see are/is ____________ .

    I don't subscribe to the Watchtower,
    so I don't know if it is printed in Arabic or not,
    so the answer to that inquiry is, I don't know.

    My RHETORICAL question, is the only question you answer...
    double Sheesh!

    IF, j-bo, you EVER cracked open a Watchtower magazine and turned
    to the first page with the table of contents, there where they
    list the languages in which they print the Watchtower,
    you would find "Arabic". You know, it starts with the 'A's.
    Alphabetical, you know.

    OR, if you were ever at Watchtower Farms, like you said you were,
    didn't you ever wander around the corner from where you said
    you worked in the factory, and take a gander at the Watchtower Magazine
    Display that was created for the many Tour Groups who came in,
    and to stop at, and 'ooohhhh and ahhhhh' at the "International Brotherhood"
    feelings that the display was made to engender?

    Donna Eldred made the Watchtower. I made the AWAKE!,
    and both of us worked for about a month, fabricating and painting
    the Mollweide Projection of the Earth, with all the little pins
    sticking in the countries where the jehovah Witnesses were preaching...
    that was when I was an "Watchtower Artiste"!

    *

    Anywho, if you'd ever bothered to look at my creation,
    you'd have seen that Sister Eldred and I were careful to lay out
    all the magazine in which the Watchtower was printed,
    and yes, an ARABIC edition was laid out for all to see.

    You didn't get around much up there on the Farm, did you?

    .

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    OMG Tally, is that you?
    What and utter display!
    The tour bus stops here, come see our pride & joy.

    Your talent is way more appreciated in your "re-displays".

    I can't understand why people would rag on you! It was God's Channel that printed these pictures! Why do JWs get so upset when forced to look at themselves. What kind of 'defence of their truth' is that? Is it cause too much of a good thing makes them gag?

    Unbelievable.
    These should be sent to the United Nations, the CIA & the FBI

  • sf
    sf

    "These should be sent to the United Nations, the CIA & the FBI"

    Seriously Tom, have you Alerted! the 'targets' whom are depicted?

    What and/ or whom, if not, are you waiting on?

    sKally..."it's not about answering the questions, it's about questioning the answers" klass

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman

    Will P:

    OMG Tally, is that you?
    Yup.
    In 1975 as a True Blu WT Fanatic half way thru my hitch at the Farm.
    Remember leisure suits? heeeeeeee.

    The tour bus stops here, come see our pride & joy.

    Oh yeah, The Tour Groups would linger over this display because
    it helped convince them what a Huge International "Family"
    they all belonged to. Gaaaaag!

    I can't understand why people would rag on you! It was God's Channel that printed these pictures!

    I know!
    It's not only that there are VERY FEW Watchtower "Art" Lovers out there, but it's like "go after the messenger (me) instead of the message".

    So, I just wanted to show the pic to confess that I was working in Watchtower "Intell" and helping crank out the Watchtower Propaganda.

    They called me back up to Watchtower Farms six years after I left,
    to do an entire sand-carved wood sign system for the Farms Complex,
    and they didn't even give me a lousy T-shirt for my efforts...
    THREE FREEKIN' WEEKS of my time/trip to NY from NC/expenses, etc.

    They did send me a sweet thank you note, tho.

    LOve, Tallyman

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman
    Seriously Tom, have you Alerted! the 'targets' whom are depicted?

    sKally,
    yep. I have alerted every pertinent government agency which I've found to have a contact email address, and my guess is that some of them are on ALERT Status... don't know the "color", though.

    Hope some of them were watching "Dateline" tonite.

    LOve, Tallyman

  • Celtic
    Celtic

    WhyNow2000

    Which newspapers do you read?

    Kindest regards

    Mark

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