Is It Just Me??

by What Now? 34 Replies latest jw experiences

  • blondie
    blondie

    Have you tried meetups for SAHM or SAHP

    We found we had interests in common with a neighbors: gardening, canning, trailer camping; we exchange foreign foods with each other and treats on the holidays or just for grins.

    My husband as non-jw friends from back to grade school and we have renewed contact with them...grill out, go to concerts

    I found I had to be a friend to have friends; I am naturally quiet person but I have reached out and it has worked.

    But it takes time; did you ever move to a new congregation where you knew no one? If so, how friendly were they, did it take time. I went to 20 different congregations during my lifetime as a jw...it was slow going if at all (my father was not a jw).

    Love, Blondie

  • stuckinarut2
    stuckinarut2

    Remember that YOU are NOT the one with the problem...THEY are!

    THEY are the ones who would rather live a lie and follow fairy tales rather than face up to reality.

    YOU are being honest with yourself and your child.

    What is honest value like that worth?

    Love and support to you!

  • AudeSapere
    AudeSapere

    Toddlers are tough. Then all of a sudden (almost) they snap out of it and become delightful preschoolers.

    Find an activity to do outside EVERYday. Go for walks. Stop and look at flowers. Take a class just for yourself. Take a different class for your toddler and you to play together.

    Check out local craft stores. Likely there are holiday things to do. (You can participate even if you don't relate the religious side of the holidays.) This way you will start creating holiday memories for your child(ren).

    Do something fun - EVERY day.

    It will get better.

    There are many posters here who have been where you are now. They have created good supportive friendships for themselves and their children. Besty and SweetPea come to mind. Maybe SweetPea can tell you what helped her to make new, non-conditional friends...

    -Aude.

  • AudeSapere
    AudeSapere

    I just read your follow-up comment about 'church' and the bible-thumping friend.

    You can join the church for what you get out of it and join a separate play group for association on a mommy level. You don't have to find everything all in one function. It's really, really hard to do that.

    As for the friend who keeps witnessing to you... Just tell her that you really enjoy her company and the kids like playing together but you are not interested in hearing about her church. It's just too raw for you right now after having been spiritually abused for a few decades. You can share your story or not. But *most* people will take the hint to tone down the preaching after the second or possibly third reminder. Just cut her off mid-sentence when she starts to preach. Unless you really don't want to give her another chance.

    I have a new friend who has bible study evening weekly with women from her church. Mostly they get together to drink wine. We laugh about it. She enjoys it. She knows I have zero interest. Sometimes she tells me about a topic they discussed. Sometimes I tell her my thoughs. Sometimes she cares and sometimes she doesn't. Same with me. But we are still good friends. We don't *have* to agree on theology or philosophy in order to appreciate each others better qualities - and the mischievious ones, too!

    -Aude.

  • cultBgone
    cultBgone

    What Now? and Belize, WELCOME!!!

    WhatNow, as your "friend" outed you before you were ready, it's only natural that you feel off-kilter. All that new and shiny jdub stuff is just superficial fluff, though, and you're not missing a thing. It's like a clique of high school girls who focus on new fads all the time...it's not that you're not cool cause you don't fit in, it's that they are nutso for attention.

    The best thing you can do for yourself is to allow yourself to be happy. You are not wrong. You are not a bad mommy. You are a wonderful person who has escaped a horrible cult and should be so proud of herself for saving her child from growing up in an absolutely ridiculous, soul-numbing environment. Good for you!!!

    Don't worry that you don't have instant friends on the outside of the bOrg...give it some time. The most important thing you can do is RELAX. While it's sad to have others shun you, remember that IT'S THEIR LOSS and not yours. You are obviously intelligent, caring and loving and are the one to be missed.

    So WE are happy you're here!!!

    And Belize, same to you!!! So happy you are here with us.

  • Magnum
    Magnum

    Recently my wife saw an older brother at the grocery store. He used to be very friendly to us. She said he would almost not even acknowledge her. We are only inactive. She didn’t feel hurt; she felt angry because she knows he’s a nut, but he thinks she’s wrong.

    stuckinarut2: Remember that YOU are NOT the one with the problem...THEY are!

    I fully agree with that. You have to keep the proper perspective. Remember, they are the ones who follow seven men in a religion that tries to expose the history of other religions, yet hides its own. They are the ones who belong to a religion that won’t let its members question or read outside material. You get the point, right?

    We experienced our first real "shunning" yesterday. We ran into someone we used to know at the grocery store. I smiled, waved and said "hello", she looked at me, looked away and kept walking.

    It was awful.

    Again, keep the proper perspective. What’s awful is that she is part of a religion that claims to have the truth yet hides the truth and the facts - a religion that is deceptive and that is interested in money - a religion that has a history of false prophecy of over a hundred years - one that has members who are ignorant, smug, self-righteous, corny, goody-goodies. You shouldn’t feel in any way hurt; you should feel indignation that she’s so stupid.

    But right now, the organization seems exciting. All that the governing body has done to make the religion seem hip and modern and relateable seems to be working, among the membership at least. There's witness feeds on social media, pictures of "Jehovah's happy people"

    I respectfully disagree. Nothing seems exciting about what is going on in the org. The org is way behind the rest of the world. The situation reminds me of Dr Evil’s coming out of his 30-year freeze and thinking that having a laser was something special when to the rest of the world, lasers were old news. The organization seems ever more shallow and ever more desperate to survive. I see the org as selling out. The bold, serious, dignified (at least seemingly so) stance and countenance of a few years ago has given way to buffoonery, corniness, shallowness, ignorance, etc. Please don’t feel that you need what the org offers now. Fill your life with learning, exploring, etc. If you seek some sort of social structure, seek it elsewhere.

    What I miss is the old days when JWs studied deeper material and the district conventions seemed exciting and I really thought exciting prophecies were about to fulfilled, etc. I am sentimental about some of the stuff associated with old JWdom. However, I am disgusted by what I see now and want no part of it.

    right now I just feel like the bitter apostate that they warn you about.

    Again, wrong perspective. You have seen the truth. You’ve seen behind the curtain. Scales have fallen off your eyes. Look at it that way. They call you a bitter apostate, but that’s a textbook case an ad hominem argument – calling you names and attacking you rather than your argument. As stuckinarut2 said, they’re the ones with the problem(s).

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    I am editing out my post. You not only got a lot of the same suggestions, but you have tried them or can't to much of a degree. Your best bet is your neighbors and neighborhood and just getting out there and meeting folks. And yes, even old ones (who might need help with their groceries or something). Just keep making connections, and you can do good and if something else comes of it, then great. If not, you did something good (excellent example for your little one)

    I wish you all good things!! I know things are more of a challenge with a little one. Just keep your head up and smile at all the NON JWs you see in the grocery store. Not everyone is evangelizing you (although JWs are wrong in that many Christians DO-they just aren't keeping records and counting time and they are doing it informally without extraneous literature!)

    If someone is harrassing you about your "religion" and you want to maintain good relations without playing that game, here is a line to try, "I can't talk about religious things because of deep trauma that it has caused in my family. I respect your faith and I know the Bible well. If I am ever interested in going to your church, I will sure talk to you about it, but please respect that it is not something I can go into now, it is just too painful"

    Our society has a lot of people who TRY to be sensitive. If you are alcoholic or allergic or a recovering addict, most will be nice and your friend but will carefully not feed you nuts or offer you a beer or joint. We can have any kind of malady or trauma and people try to accomodate.

  • clarity
    clarity

    Belizeme hi........a big welcome to you!

    Congratulations for getting out of cult!

    Be glad you are excited and feeing all

    those emotions that got so tied-up inside.

    Great to have you here.

    clarity

  • lambsbottom
    lambsbottom

    What Now:

    Only you and your spouse can decide what is best for your family. You have to weigh the FACTS and decide whether being a JW is right for you. However, all you have mentioned is the "exciting" things in the organization. This concerns me.

    As a stay at home mom, may I suggest trying homeschooling your child, joining PTA, helping out in the classroom, voulenterring for hospice, etc.

    It sounds like you are bored. Seek out moral, fun, happy people through groups on meetup.com . Enjoy your children! You won't get this time back!

    My wife would be willing to email anytime. We have young kiddos.

    Much love!

  • clarity
    clarity

    Hello Whatnow .....don't let their ignorance

    get you down! I just call attention to their

    behavior by acting surprised or just laughing

    at them ....I don't acknowledge ANY control

    over me! Hang in there dear....we are pulling

    for you!

    clarity

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