Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

by Simon 551 Replies latest social current

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  Finkelstein

  It was said in this thread that Wilson was only 5' 7" , this is false information.

  He testified in Court himself that he is just short of being 6'4" approximately 210 lbs. the same height as M Brown.

  If he's posing an immediate danger to the police or others then yes, absolutely.

  Simon, some disingenuous fool twisted my make believe analogy of one where I stated that the protester was going to throw a Motive Cocktail at the officer who confronted the protester, that is not what I said, I did say that the protester was coming at the officer with fists raised as to punch out the officer , there is clear difference to be realized.

  I made no insinuation that the protester was throwing Molotov Cocktails at the officer or other people, I clearly said buildings .
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  Simon

  I did say that the protester was coming at the officer with fists raised as to punch out the officer , there is clear difference to be realized.

  My apologies for not following it. Ok, to answer your question:

  It will very much depend on the circumstances. If the officer tells them to stop and they stop? Of course they can't be shot. If it's some drunk in a bar who's not thinking clearly? It would probably be an overreaction to shoot them.

  But if the person is wanted for a crime, has already attacked the officer once / resisted arrest and is refusing repeated orders to stop? Yes - they can be shot. How on earth are the police supposed to do their job if people are free to attack them?

  If you are not happy with the law then you should lobby to have it changed and vote for representatives who support changing it.
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  sammielee24

  There is no question that Brown needed to apprehended but was the action taken by Wilson appropriate profession authoritive control ?

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  Yes it was. He took control of the situation when he finally got out from under Browns assault and ran after him to try and apprehend him. He ordered Brown to get on the ground - this was so backup could get there. Brown ignored him. Brown ran at him despite the officer pointing a gun at him. Having just been punched in the head and face - having just been in a physical altercation with a man trying to take his weapon - Brown was using his physical strength as a weapon. He was using his physical strength to intimidate. If a man is raping a woman but has no weapon - how is that assault? Does a woman have a right to defend herself against a rapist who has no apparent weapon outside the physical? sw
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  sammielee24

  It was said in this thread that Wilson was only 5' 7" , this is false information.

  He testified in Court himself that he is just short of being 6'4" approximately 210 lbs. the same height as M Brown.

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  That's true.

  Context is everything.

  The two were close to the same height - however Brown was 292 pounds. It was also reported that Wilson said putting his hand on Brown while the assault was happening in the vehicle, was like putting a hand on Hulk Hogan. He obviously believed his strength and ability physically to be less than that shown by Brown.
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  LoveUniHateExams

  @Finkelstein

  I accept your correction - Wilson was of similar height but much lighter in weight than MB.

  'How on earth are the police supposed to do their job if people are free to attack them?' - well said. What's a cop supposed to do if a suspect refuses orders and continues to charge?

  This seems to be a case of suicide by cop.
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  Simon

  If a man is raping a woman but has no weapon - how is that assault? Does a woman have a right to defend herself against a rapist who has no apparent weapon outside the physical?

  If it's Bill Cosby then he is armed with a lifetime supply of roofies. But he's black so can't have committed any crime. Those women must all be racist.
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  DesirousOfChange

  News article: "Darren Wilson's Story is Unbelievable. Literally."

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  http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7281165/darren-wilsons-story-side

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  Doc
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  Simon

  That's "literally" not a news article. It's a piece of pure bias. Any 'unknown'? Assume the best of MB and the worse of OW.

  Why did Michael Brown, an 18-year-old kid headed to college, refuse to move from the middle of the street to the sidewalk? (A: He's stupid) Why would he curse out a police officer? (A: He's disrespectful and stupid) Why would he attack a police officer? (A: He's violent and stupid) Why would he dare a police officer to shoot him? (A: He's too stupid) Why would he charge a police officer holding a gun? (A: He's past stupid) Why would he put his hand in his waistband while charging, even though he was unarmed? (A: He's probably needed to hold his pants up)

  We could ask all the opposite questions of Officer Wilson - there is no reason for him to randomly attack someone. He was there doing his job.
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  keyser soze

  I really wasn't going to comment on this thread, but citing a blog as a news source seems kind of desperate.
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  Finkelstein

  Agree Simon

  There was a incident just a couple days ago here in Vancouver where a mentally deranged man started to get violent on a public street with a 2 by 4 in his hand, wacking cars and trucks as the passed

  The officers who attended the call at first tried to subdue the man with bean bag guns, which were unsuccessful.

  The man still came at the officer with the piece of lumber in hand, they in turn opened fire with their guns and the man fell to the ground dead. ??

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  Is it too much to expect that police officers who are trained with using guns to use these guns in a non-lethal way like shooting at the legs or shoulders of perpetraters who they are trying to subdue . ?