GETTING THINGS STRAIGHT. Who invented the "FDS" as a prophetic identification of the GB? WHEN?

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  • Terry
    Terry

    Read the above and answer the questions:

    ORGANIZATION: is it legitimate?

    1. Matt 24: 44, 45: a parable or prophecy?

    2. Why would such a significant revealing of this prophecy come through A WOMAN?

    3. Why wasn't Maria Ackley "that servant?"

    4. If such a revelation came through a female, why can't women be on today's Governing Body?

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    HAVE YOU READ THIS? I DOUBT YOU HAVE.

    A Statement from Morton Edgar Regarding Rutherford's "Organization."

    Morton Edgar, a prominent writer amongst the Bible Students even in the days of Russell, wrote the following either in the latter 1920s or early 1930s, in response to Rutherford's new "organization" doctrine. Edgar's statement reflects the sentiments of many Bible Students living at that time, as they were appalled at what Rutherford was doing with the Watch Tower Society that had been formed for different purposes.

    The word “organisation” does not occur in the Bible, and its use is apt to mislead. The Scriptural word is “kingdom”; and our Lord distinctly said that “the kingdom of God cometh not with observation”—with outward show— Luke 17:20 . Therefore there is no “visible organisation of God on earth,” as is claimed by some to their undoing.

    How often Brother Russell warned us against this very thing, and how foolish we shall be if we do not heed his warning. We shall indeed be foolish if we claim that “only through our system or organisation will the heavenly Father accept praise and service”; for this would make it appear necessary for every spirit-begotten child of God to “bow the knee” to the few who have constituted themselves heads of the organisation. The apostle shows that it is only the carnal, fleshly mind that is deceived by such unscriptural claims— 1 Cor. 3:1-6 , 18-23 ....

    I for one entirely repudiate this talk of “God’s visible organization on earth” during this Gospel Age. It is dangerous talk, and gives rise to all kinds of persecutions and ungodly claims, as anyone who has consecrated reasoning powers can see.... If there was one thing that our dear Brother Russell warned us against, more strongly than any other, it was this very thing. Brother Russell never made any such claim for the “Society” when he was here in the flesh and amongst us, for he knew better. But Judge Rutherford, apparently, does not know enough to keep himself clear of it. In the very first chapter of the first volume of “Studies,” Brother Russell speaks of this “false idea that the nominal church, in its present condition, is the sole agency” for the recovery of the world from sin. -- Published in "Gleanings From Glasgow"
  • Terry
    Terry

    THIS LINK REPAYS STUDY.

    Everything you'd ever want to know about Pastor Russell's view on "ORGANIZATION" is right here.

    http://ctr-rlbible.com/?p=1892

    IT WOULD BE LOVELY TO ASK THE WATCHTOWER WITNESSES to refute him point by point!

  • runForever
    runForever

    Maria Russell = Scam artist.

  • ScenicViewer
    ScenicViewer

    as late as 1923 , the Watch Tower repeated the same belief about his role, declaring: "We believe that all who are now rejoicing in present truth will concede that Brother Russell faithfully filled the office of special servant of the Lord; and that he was made ruler over all the Lord's goods ... Brother Russell occupied the office of that 'faithful and wise servant'."

    Terry, do you have a page number or an issue where this quote can be found?

    Thanks for the information!

  • jimbojones
    jimbojones

    Wow. That link about Russell' views on organization are very assertive. There is no denying his viewpoints with those quotes. Thanks Terry.

  • sparky1
    sparky1

    Here is a different quote for you with the same information, ScenicViewer:

    "Without a doubt Pastor Russell filled the office for which the Lord provided and about which he spoke and was therefore that wise and faithful servant, ministering to the household of faith meat in due season."- THE HARP OF GOD 1921 edition page 239 paragraph 420

  • sparky1
    sparky1

    Just to bolster Terrys argument and to add credence to what he is saying about the ORGANIZATION:

    "This work, which has covered a period of about forty-five years, has never had for its purpose the forming of any arrangement by which Christians join anything."-THE HARP OF GOD 1921 edition page 240 paragraph 422

  • ScenicViewer
    ScenicViewer

    Thank you Sparky1 for the Harp of God reference. It's helpful.

    I would still like to have the issue from the 1923 Watchtower quote. I'm sure it will appear soon.

  • Hairtrigger
    Hairtrigger

    Marked. Thankyou.

  • naja
    naja

    marked, thanks.

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