Karen/Sentinel
When i read your exp i fully know what you are talking about, for i was one of those elders being Groomed and trained to ask those exact questions,
it is so sad to think that this concept called ELDERS has free rein to deal with women in such a manner
--when in fact you would have been no better off than if the guys at the local bowling alley were asking the questions
this is why this religion is so dangerous it put guys who spend alot of hours selling useless books in charge of folks lives
almost every single person feels that they must be HONEST WITH THE ELDERS
the wt has successfully raised the level of respect for elders to the level of MOSES
when in fact as i often say they are no more than the guys who hand out CHEESE CRACKERS at Walmart on sat PM
well the post i did awhile back seems to sum up your exp as well
we call it PANTIES OR THONGS
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=4114&site=3#51583
PANITES OR THONGS
I thought the name of this thread was so on time for this thread demostrates one of the sad things about claiming to speak for god, when one actually does not.
when i was a newly appointed elder at the tender age of 27
i was introduced to the world of the JUDICAL COMMITTEE.
It was in fact my first case. i had gotten a call from the PO before the meeting stating that their would be an elders meetings to discuss some judical matters. i sat thru the meeting thinking and wondering
what type of case would it be and would i be selected to serve on it since i was a new elder or would i be told next you can serve.
right after the prayer we quickly entered the 2nd school. and there we sat, the po annouced that he had been approached by a single sister who stated she had sexual relationship with a man on her job and this would require the formation of a judical committe.
i recall so well that one bro almost jumped out of his seat to volunteer stating that since she was in his bookstudy he felt that he would be in a good position to serve.
the po stated he would be out of town so he could not do it this weekend and it needed to be handle quickly cause it was publicly known on her job
- the guy got the sister stuff and-went bragging about bagging a JW-
so another bro was recommended and then the po said let James serve it will be good exp. we got 2 exp elders already.
so the time was arranged for sat at 2pm at the hall to meet with her but we would meet at 1:30pm to review the flockbook
well i was up late friday night reviewing the flockbook on how i could be a loving shepard for this dear sister who had been swallowed up by this worldly man - a tool of satan_
then the time came she walked into the room and i had known her for a number of years and my wife and her were good friends so the embarrassment on her face was so telling
after a prayer the chairman explained a few ground rules no tape recorders , etc
then she was asked to tell us what happened
when she finished --the woman was shaking and eyes just full of water
then the questioning began
at first the question were basic one that i thought sounded reasonable, but in just a few min i realized why the bookstudy conductor wanted to serve on her case
i found out later that he was interested in her yrs ago, but she wasn't
he married and his wife was one of those big black sisters who was good in field service , but not much to really look at
while this sister kinda put in mind of a Venessa Williams type to put in plainly she was a nice looking sister i won't lie
but the questions took a wild left hand turn, he started and the other bro would followup it was like machine gun questions
Who was on top
Did he Climax
was there oral or any anal
and on an on it went
and yes the famous question:
"Were you wearing Panites or Thongs?"
i could see that she was starting to lose it and she just brokedown into tears- so she was excused to go to the bathroom
while she was out it was explained to me as a new elder that such questions were NEEDED to see if she was consistent in her story and the details- to see if she was truly repentant or was it a practice
he explained to me that a "Practice" could be considered if the person had sexually intercourse more than once during the night while in the bed with the person- that it was not needed for it to be separate days, but more than once in the same night and it "could be" considered that the person had made it into a "Pratice"
the TECHNICAL DETAILS that wt gives it's elders are unreal
such as the difference between
1. MOMENTARYLY TOUCHING A SISTER'S BREAST
2. CARRESSING IT-
oUR WT elders school spent about 25 min in our class explaining the difference between the two and each has it's own
punishment
i was told that the Panty-Thong question would reveal
"INTENT" "Scheming" "planning" etc on the part of the sister
you see as it was explained to me if she was wearing Bloomers or reg panties then if a claim was made that we got carried away in the heat of the moment then it would be possible
but if she was wearing "Thongs" then she went to his house with the intent of Giving him Some
now this is how i was beening groomed and instructed, being a new elder who had never served on any case i didn't know
these guys were exp elders with yrs of judical cases under thier belt-
beside these were all Former bethelites like myself so of course the boys from THE HOUSE knew how the judicial meeting was to be handle
well she came back into the room and sat down and the questions started again in a few min and at this point she refused to answer anymore questions LIKE THAT and she told us she would not answer THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONs
"Girl Friend" picked up her bag and walked out
in 5 min we decided that she was "UNREPENTANT" AND DFED HER
I SWEAR TO GOD i only wish i could find her and tell her how sorry i was for allowing her to literally be ganged raped by those guys
this system of the WT of having men called Elders with no training FREELY be able to ask any Damn quesiton they want to and the persons is obligated to answer or else be viewed as not working with Jehovah's Organization is a Damn Joke
I often wonder whatever became of that sister- she attended only about 2or 3 meetings after the annoucement and disappared into thin air
If you are reading this post and you know who you are
for i'm in the Washington DC area of the country
I beg you to please accept my apology for supporting such a cruel and evil system
James
