What are you now???

by SpiceItUp 52 Replies latest jw friends

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  StinkyPantz

  Actually I started a thread similaer to this not too long ago posing the same question. My answer is that I am agnostic. Why? Well isn't being an agnostic all about uncertainty? Well I fit the bill.
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  garybuss

  
  I am absolutely certain, and this I can tell you without a hint of ambiguity . . . I really don't know.
  
  I judge myself by my intentions and the world judges me by my behavior.
  
  I have never seen serious thought even fill a water glass, nor have I seen, even with my microscope, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
  
  I do believe, for every fool, there is a hook or a scam . . . and a fool for a scam is a fool for the method.
  
  I have been fooled many times in my past and I am sure I am being fooled with some point(s) in my life right now. My own history gives me conviction that this is hardly disputable at all.
  
  It seems to me that any decision in life is really nothing more that a reason to quit learning.
  
  I can't think why I'd do that.
  
  gb
  

  
  

  The Way I See it http://www.freeminds.org/buss/buss.htm
  
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  starfish422

  Well, I'm an atheist...but I often wonder whether there is a cosmic, karmic sort of force out there which connects all living things on the earth. Not a deity; more of a 'the force be with you' kind of thing.
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  HomebutHiding

  My husband has been telling me for some time now that you can't put God in a box. JWs so completely limited him by definition, that I have a difficult time imagining a God whose "Face" and personality doesn't in most ways reflect what the JWs made me see. As far as the peace Christainity brings to hearts, it is an avenue. Many Buddhists, and Zen practitioners would say they achieve peace through their respective belief systems. Spirituality, like all other elements of human reasoning,is a product of biological processes in the brain. That doesn't make it any less real; just puts it in perspective. HbH
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  nancee park

  I believe as Romans 14:1-5 says to non-judgmentally allow other Christians freedom of beliefs which is kindness and allows more room for the doing of what is good. Also God's spiritual kingdom rules the hearts of not only all truly kind Christians but also in the hearts of those non-Christians who are also of good will toward others. As such I call myself a Christian and more descriptively a Free Christian, the name for the movement among former Jehovah's Witnesses and Friends for greater Christian freedoms. Contrary to WTS myth not all but definitely many of us still do believe in resurrection to earth and or heaven and love Jah and His Christ. We gladly fellowship with other decent persons not part of the "world" of evil. Many also are interested in this wonderful planet and its creatures that God has given us!

  Try this interesting FC website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jahchristian Newsletters are at the bottom in blue there. An interesting new website for exJWs to meet up: http://exjw.meetup.com/
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  SpiceItUp

  I have noticed that I have a very bad habit of posting a question and then forgetting to answer it myself... sorry bout that.....so here goes..

  I am still trying to discover myself...let alone the mysteries of the universe. I do belive that we are all energy and have a purpose (not that I know what it is yet but...) and I like the idea of mother nature and father sky. I have also been very interesed in eastern religions...buddism..taoism..zen views etc. I guess that would make me a bit of an agnostic pagan. Hmmm. Anybody else have similar views...

  Spice
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  Sentinel

  Hi Carol,

  A good post for thought content! It seems that whenever one goes into the hospital they ask what your faith is. Well, let's see: I cannot say that I am Christian, or Jewish, or Catholic. I am not an atheist, nor an egnostic. Is there a category for me? Ah yes, there most deffinitely is.

  I am:

  ENLIGHTENED

  I believe that something is responsible for the existence of all that we know. I tend to call these the creators.

  I don't believe in religion period, but I am a very spiritual person. (Which is intirely different from someone practicing spiritism.)

  I try to work towards the "good" in all things, and tolerate what is left over, that which we can't ignore.

  I attempt to treat others the way I'd like them to treat me in return. I will only turn my cheek so many times, and then I have no use for the offenders in my life.

  I explore the information available, and take what I need from it, and let the rest be. One cannot take everything into their minds, as we are not capable of that--we would burn out. There is just so much information out there, everywhere you turn. And our creators will dispense what we are meant to know when the time is right. No need to worry about tomorrow. No need to worry about dying.

  I would rather choose the positive than the negative. Knowledge without wisdom is like water flowing through a strainer--it would all just pass through without leaving anything behind. I hope that my search will leave me with "much left behind".

  There is no way we can possible know or understand all, but we can live our lives trying to improve ourselves, and searching for something better. We all should desire to be the best human being we can be. Humans have basic needs, and one of them is to be able to both give and receive love--real love, not just the physical kind. It sounds so simple, and yet, to love ourselves is one of the most difficult things we will ever "learn" to do. Yet, each of us must attempt to do that, for we are living a lie, if we do not.

  And in that search for personal fulfillment, hopefully, we will find peace and contentment within ourselves, and live a joyful and happy life. And, if in doing so, we affect someone else in a positive way, then this is a return of the immeasurable.

  "I am I"

  Karen/Sentiel
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  SpiceItUp

  (((Karen)))

  That was absolutely beautiful. Thank you.

  Carol
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  TheContagion

  I had long called myself a atheist. Like JanH
  said "that describes more what I am not than what I am". What i am and have always been is a Pantheist. Like Einstien, Stephen Hawking, and Carl Sagan.

  We are not humans having spiritual experiences, the universe is one great big spirit having individual human experiences.

  I have a web site/MSN group that i am slowly developing about Semantic Pantheism.
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  joeshmoe

  Ugh. I have no idea what to believe right now. Still trying to form a new world view. I think right now I'm in the "life sucks, then you die" catagory. Of course, I may just be in a bad mood today.

  Maybe I could use some of Sentinels lovely philosophy. As nice as it sounds, if I said I believed it, I'd be lying. Too bad. Maybe as I gain more distance from the WTS ... who knows.

  - Joe