Can 'truth' change? (page 6)

hillary_step

Perhaps WholeWheat is in the oven half-baking...lol

I haven't drifted away. I cannot spend as much time on the computer as I would like. I have noticed that different ones on this thread have varying viewpoints as to what science is. I use science, and especially Physics because it is so exacting, unlike Biology. And yet the laws in Physics are subject to change. The first century Christians were not all in agreement in regards as to what they each believed to be the definition of "Chritianity". Paul had his theology, James had his, and Peter and John had theirs. But they all had the 'truth'. How presice does truth 'have' to be? If the apostles had the 'truth' why did they have to debate the issue of circumcision? 'Truth' can be refined, just like gold, removing the impurities, until it is pure and undefiled. You all put too much emphasis on the Governing Body. I personally never give them a thought, I pray to Jehovah, not Albert Schroeder.

Satanus

Wheatlet

Gaaasp!! Paulian truth differed from jamesian truth? And these different truth flavours got put in the bible? I guess that explains why there are so many different christianities: they each pick the truth that they like and ignore the conflicting ones.

SS

wholewheat

Saint Satan,

What a name!! There is one problem with your observation, the apostles didn't have the complete Bible.

D8TA

the apostles didn't have the complete Bible

Much like you...with your brain? Right? Though I admire you when you stick not but one, but TWO feet in your mouth. . .and in the same day. Problem with Wholewheat is; it has a problem with something called "reading comprehension".

D8TA

Satanus

Wheatlet

My name..ya, i could be a saint or a devil:)

the apostles didn't have the complete Bible

Wasn't gods spirit bearing them along as they wrote holy words, expressing the mind of god on all things, raised up dead people, expelled demons, cured the sick, miraculously fed thousands, etc etc? What more would they need?

SS

hillary_step

WholeWheat,

I do not normally follow these types of threads as they are close to pointless, but I did read this one carefully thinking it fair to give you the benefit of the doubt. These are the summation of all your posts :

In another thread I posted the following thought, but I wanted to post this for everyone to see and give their input.
The argument that 'truth' never changes holds no water. According to Random House Webster's Dictionary, 'truth' is defined as follows,"conformity with fact or reality".
The word 'conform' is defined as,"to bring into agreement".
If 'truth' never changes, then how can something taught in science that is considered to be 'exact', later be corrected by 'conforming with fact or reality so as to bring into agreement'?
Telling me that I am in over my head is not a good answer. But I will help you to make a better argument. First of all, you could start by being explicit as to how I am playing a 'semantics' game by giving me your definition of 'truth'. Another point you could make is that the Society teaches 'Fundamental Truths" which are supposed to never change. So how would I answer that? C'mon, let's make this debate fun!!!
There is a misconception on this board that I am against science, and that is not true. I need to explain that in Physics there are 'laws'. Physics is what is known to be an 'exacting science'. I am not talking about theories or hypothesis.
Now a law is also defined as a 'canon', and a 'canon' (according to Webster's Dictionary) is 'a general rule, law, or TRUTH'.
'Exact' is defined as ,'Marked by agreement with fact or a standard; precise or correct'.
So, is it possible that Physics, which is an exacting science, could have a 'law' that has to be updated or even corrected? If so, why can't Bible 'truths' be expanded on, even corrected? Remember, there were christians in the first century who were filled with Holy Spirit that believed that gentile christians had to be circumcised, and yet they had to be 'corrected' or 'updated' by Paul
I haven't drifted away. I cannot spend as much time on the computer as I would like. I have noticed that different ones on this thread have varying viewpoints as to what science is. I use science, and especially Physics because it is so exacting, unlike Biology. And yet the laws in Physics are subject to change. The first century Christians were not all in agreement in regards as to what they each believed to be the definition of "Chritianity". Paul had his theology, James had his, and Peter and John had theirs. But they all had the 'truth'. How presice does truth 'have' to be? If the apostles had the 'truth' why did they have to debate the issue of circumcision? 'Truth' can be refined, just like gold, removing the impurities, until it is pure and undefiled. You all put too much emphasis on the Governing Body. I personally never give them a thought, I pray to Jehovah, not Albert Schroeder.

This is my answer : No.

Best regards - HS

LDH

LOL@ Hillary!!!

Lisa

LDH

PS, Whole wheat, here's some truth that you might enjoy.

Notice which bread grew mold the fastest.....Whole wheat, perhaps that diet so rich in TheoKratic Goodness has really begun to MOLD your thinking ability.

Lisa

wholewheat

Lisa,

That is very funny and I like to laugh. If the ex-JWs would spend more time answering the question instead of making fun of my moniker, we could have an interesting discussion. I am allowed to give my views, aren't I? I notice you love to spend lots and lots of time giving yours.

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