by OrphanCrow 162 Replies latest watchtower scandals
OrphanCrow,
I heard AM3 give a talk where he stated he had talked to his father who he claims is wealthy and was old at the time and his father warned him about giving money to the WT Society and he said to to the audience that his father didn't know that he was the Wt Society. Any info that could shed light on that statement?
berrygerry: This thread would make a great movie. "God's Guinea Pigs"
I am sure it would.
And the movie could start with a 16 year old girl who gives birth to a baby boy in 1974, only a few short years after the Haemonetics cell saver was first put into production, and less than a year before the "End of the World" predicted by the Watchtower Society.
When the baby needs surgery at 6 days of age, and the girl's mother (the baby's grandmother), signs the no blood transfusion form, the hospital immediately calls the local JWs who make the arrangements for the surgical procedure to go ahead - sans blood transfusion. And against the wishes of the baby's mother who has no choice in the matter.
The baby is put through a long and risky surgical procedure after a specialist is called in from another city - arriving at the hospital with equipment to deal with the baby's surgery. The baby survives the long and lengthy procedure, but unfortunately, two months later, has a horrible side effect from the first surgical procedure - a large portion of his bowel is gangrenous - a side effect of transfusing his blood back into his body through his navel. He undergoes yet another surgical procedure - this time to remove 9 inches of his small intestine. The doctors tell his 16 year old mother that her baby has a 3 percent chance of survival. But that wee tiny baby beats the odds and survives.
He lives, and so does his mother who had expected to be destroyed at the Armageddon that was to arrive before her baby's first birthday,
And, years later, many years later, that teenage mom grows up and learns what it is that happened to her newborn baby so many years ago. She remembers everything that happened back in 1974, and she remembers everything the doctors told her. And she discovers that the procedure that the JWs had arranged with the doctors, was a procedure that would not get approval from the JW headquarters until many years later.
And the baby's mama is pissed - she sets out to destroy the organization that had used her newborn baby for a guinea pig.
Brokeback: OrphanCrow,
I heard AM3 give a talk where he stated he had talked to his father who he claims is wealthy and was old at the time and his father warned him about giving money to the WT Society and he said to to the audience that his father didn't know that he was the Wt Society. Any info that could shed light on that statement?
Eww...that is sort of a creepy comment from AM3 - to make the claim that he is the WTS. I hadn't heard that before - Tight Pants Tony hasn't really hit my radar screen much. Maybe someone else has made Tony-watching a project. He is a strange dude.
berrygerry - "This thread would make a great movie. 'God's Guinea Pigs'."
Or, at the very least, the title of the article / book.
In fact, the more I think about it, the more convinced I am that that's the way to go; self-publishing is easy these days, and it'd be one hell of an expose.
Movie adaptations can (and often do) come later.
OrphanCrow - "...that is sort of a creepy comment from AM3 - to make the claim that he is the WTS."
Every so often, people let their genuine thoughts and feelings slip out... accidentally or otherwise.
OrphanCrow
And, years later, many years later, that teenage mom grows up and learns what it is that happened to her newborn baby so many years ago. She remembers everything that happened back in 1974, and she remembers everything the doctors told her. And she discovers that the procedure that the JWs had arranged with the doctors, was a procedure that would not get approval from the JW headquarters until many years later.
And the baby's mama is pissed - she sets out to destroy the organization that had used her newborn baby for a guinea pig.
Good for this all grown up young mother.
I wish her every success.
Vidiot, I had said that i would just keep adding to this thread, so...for anyone interested in following up the connections and statements I had made earlier about the role of Germany in the pursuit of medicine that overlaps with the beginning of the blood ban and lines up ideologically with bloodless medicine, this following link has a good blog entry about science in Germany at the time of WW2:
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/12/04/was-nazi-science-good-science/
Consider the callous and uncaring attitude of the WTS and how that compares to how prisoners were thought of - the who were used as medical experiments. When the article talks about " the killing of prisoners with direct injections of phenol into the heart" - that is the clotting agent I spoke of earlier. That is an early experiment with bloodless medicine.
Consider how admired the JW prisoners were by the leader of the SS. What did he admire? Their loyalty - their willingness to die for their Jehovah. How easy it was to convince them that Jehovah wanted them to refuse blood transfusions. How incredibly easy it was. And how loyal those JWs have been - always listening to the directions of the "Great Physician". A perfect medical experimental group.
To take the topic away from the medical aspect of Lorenz Reibling's background, and back to his Taurus Investments, the first video I posted has Lorenz in Argentina, giving an interview about the real estate market, both in the US, and potential projects in Argentina.
Did anyone notice the edits/cuts? They often occurred when Lorenz was looking to someone off-camera to the right of the frame. He was getting coached. I wonder who was with him - Lorenz stumbled around a bit at times.
That video was posted recently - June 2015.
Here is Professor Reibling in 2014, speaking about a Texas venture. They say everything is bigger in Texas - I wonder how that turned out for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbvjrqTsOGg
This next video I would like to re-title "Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About the Watchtower Society's Real Estate Decisions" or, "Rebling Explains 'Risk Management' in Terms Jehovah's Witnesses Understand Without Saying Jehovah's Witnesses or Armageddon". The video is from 2013 - consider how, in New York, the GB "were waiting on Jehovah for the go-ahead on a project."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAyXbrNZNCI
Here are a few places in the video that made me go hmmmm...:
8:40 - audience shot - creepy
11:40 - instructions on how to ignore gut feelings
15:30 - Germans think Americans are inferior
17:00 - here is the secret to control of their team - their loyalty is bound by a common loyalty to another group
27:00 - US is great market - wages down, production up
28:00 - they have a partner for life.... ???!!??
Consider the role distributing propaganda in certain areas/countries has on property prices. Consider the expansions, sell-offs...etc, of the WTS.
For anyone who would like to continue looking through little wee doorways, and playing with the crazy mirrors...tumble down this next rabbit hole. I watched the entire video but I don't expect many have the time to watch it all - but the video will be especially interesting to anyone who has excavated the JWs in WW2.
The video is of a panel held in Boston 2011 - the moderator is Professor Lorenz Reibling,
Panelists Klaus Scharioth, the ambassador to the United States from the Federal Republic of Germany; Detlef Garbe, director at the Neuengamme (Hamburg) Memorial; Peter C. Hoffmann, the William Kingsford Professor of History at McGill University; Robert Buckley, consultant for the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C.; John Michalczyk, chair of the Department of Fine Arts at Boston College; and Lorenz Reibling, faculty member in Boston College's Woods College of Advancing Studies; discuss the spiritual, military, and philosophical resistance against the oppression of the Third Reich.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnO7W4MDGeE
There is so much left out in the account given by Garbe - it is apparent that most of the material he presented about the JWs was given to him to say, it is what he doesn't say that is telling - there is even one part where Reibling passes Garbe a note, Garbe reads it, and carefully counts off 5 or 6 pages, omitting information about the JWs. It is a creepy video - the Holocaust Museum speaker is another piece of work.
I couldn't help thinking, as I was watching the life of Lorenz unfold by peeling away the layers of his past, that he grew older the farther back in time I looked. He was an aging, humble, quiet spoken academic in 2011. He was rather shabby then - the change in profession seems to have been good for him. Either he is a great actor, or he is into some of those stay younger drug/herb programs.
It looks like money agrees with Professor Lorenz Reibling.
It's funny...
...Dogpatch used to suggest quite often that there was some kind of shadowy group pulling the strings from behind the scenes, but we could never get him to elaborate much or name any significant names.
I wonder if this is what he was talking about.
