Hello Bleep :o)
I'll comment on your point here if I may:
>There are many many more pedophiles in the churches. Before making accusations that Jehovahs people are the religion of child abusers look at the other churches.
1. The priests that they have can not marry. Makes me think about other vows the nuns make. They have alot more reasons to child sexual abuse than my religion.>
I have, unfortunately, and for differing reasons, come into personal contact with 4 paedophiles. The first was a 17 year old boy who molested his sister and 2 of her female friends. The second was a man in his 30's, married with 2 children. The third was another male in his 30's, married with 2 children whose preference was for little boys :'o( The fourth was a male in his 50's, married with 2 children.
I also taught 2 sisters who could not go to main stream school due to emotional problems following long term sexual abuse by their step-father and his brother. The younger of the sisters was pregnant by her step-father - she was but 15 years old. Both abusers were married men with children.
So 5 males - all married with children. My personal experience does not bear out your own findings, Bleep.
I have been told by a Jehovah's Witness that the Roman Catholic Church considers and teaches that it is preferable *for a priest to engage in a sexual relationship with a child, than to marry in order to have a *natural* outlet for their sexual needs*!!!!
A statement like that could be made only by someone who
a has absolutely no knowledge of the nature of paedophilia, or
b has been taught that view by someone with no knowledge themselves, or
c they or the person who has *taught* them this view, wishes to find fault with the Roman Catholic Church, or
d has no understanding of the nature of a vow of celibacy.
Now those within the Roman Catholic Church who have abused children, have broken their vow of celibacy in a most atrocious way. There has been a tremendous scandal about the abuse situation in the Roman Catholic Church and I read that 20 priests implicated in cases have now committed suicide. The Church is now attempting to address the problem that has been exposed, and it is not a moment too soon.
A vow of celibacy does not solely mean that the person remains unmarried. It is a vow which requires abstension from sexual relations with another person.
I wonder, Bleep, if you can supply any facts or figures to support your contention that *There are many many more pedophiles in the churches.*?
Can you supply a reference for these figures which you have for the Churches which have lead you to make such a statement?
From what figures for Jehovah's Witnesses were you drawing a comparison? Does this statement, *Looking at the database of Jehovahs witnesses (which could be anyone newly baptized) I saw 20,000 cases with three largest countries combined including United States of America* mean that you have had sight of the WTBTS database and that you are confirming a figure of 20,000 paedophiles within three countries within the organisation as recorded therein?
Apart from the US, what are the other 2 countries included in the 3 countries to which you refer?
You know, there are a lot of people who are seeking to PROTECT children within the organisation. It is not these people who are bringing *reproach* on Jehovah as Scully has already mentioned. Why would they be bringing *reproach* on Jehovah by trying to protect His children?
Who in your opinion is bringing the most *reproach* on Jehovah:
1 the person who claims to be a Jehovah's Witness, but who sexually abuses a child? or
2 the person who tries to change the policies of the *Watchtower Bible and Tract Society* such that all allegations of sexual abuse are referred to the police so that victims can receive the correct counsel, care and support and the perpetrators of these dreadful crimes can be dealt with appropriately?
And the paedophile priests from the Roman Catholic Church have brought reproach on whom would you say? God, or the Roman Catholic Church?
The paedophile Jehovah's Witnesses in positions of service have brought reproach on whom would you say? Jehovah, or the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?
Cheers!
Edited by - ChristianObserver on 18 July 2002 12:43:10
