local elder admits..........

by heathen 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • Scorpion
    Scorpion

    1914 "In this chapter we present the Bible evidence proving that the full end of the times of the gentiles, i.e., the full end of their lease of dominion, will be reached in A.D. 1914; and that the date will be the farthest limit of the rule of imperfect men. And be it observed, that if this is shown to be a fact firmly established by the Scriptures, it will prove; Firstly, that at that date the Kingdom of God, for which our Lord taught us to pray, saying, Thy Kingdom come, will obtain full, universal control, and that it will then be set up, or firmly established, in the earth, on the ruins of present institutions.. It will prove that he whose right it is to thus take the dominion, will then be present as earth's new Ruler; and not only so, but it will prove that he will be present for a considerable period before that date .. It will prove that some time before the end of A.D. 1914 the last member of the divinely recognized church of Christ, the 'royal priesthood' 'the body of Christ,' will be glorified with the Head .. It will prove that from that time forward Jerusalem shall no longer be trodden down of the Gentiles, but shall arise from the dust of divine disfavor, to honor .. It will prove that by that date, or sooner, .. the full number from among the Gentiles, who are to be members of the body or bride of Christ, would be fully selected .. It will prove that the great 'time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation,' will reach its final culmination, and end, at that date .. The condition of things spoken of in symbolic language as raging waves of the sea, melting earth, falling mountains, and burning heavens, will then have passed away .. It will prove that before that date, God's kingdom, organized in power, will be in the earth, and will have smitten and crushed the Gentile image .."

    Studies in the Scriptures Volume II, The Time is at Hand page 76-78

  • heathen
    heathen

    ANd I suppose volume 3 said oooooooooopssssssssssss

  • Scorpion
    Scorpion

    1914 "That the Lord must be present, and set up his Kingdom, and exercise his great power so as to dash the nations to pieces as a potter's vessel, before A.D. 1914, is then clearly fixed; for it is 'in the days of these kings' - before their overthrow - i.e. before A.D. 1914 - that the God of heaven shall set up his Kingdom.. The 'Times of the Gentiles'.. will run fully out with the year A.D. 1914, and at that time they will all be overturned and Christ's Kingdom fully established.. Both of these ripenings (Rev. 14:1-4, 18-20) will be completed in a period of forty years, ending with the year A.D. 1914." {Time is at Hand 170}

    [In {TIAH 1916 ed 76-81}, 1914-5 having passed without the predicted events occurring, the following substitutions were unobtrusively made: the word "all" was omitted from before the "be overturned", and a footnote added "How long it will require to accomplish this overturning we are not informed, but have reasons to believe the period will be 'short.'"; also the last reference to 1914 was changed to 1915!]

  • Faraon
    Faraon
    According to JW theology it took Jesus FIVE YEARS to rassel ole Satan out of heaven

    Yes, but in heaven one day equals 1,000 years, so 5x365.25x1,000=1,826,250 years. This comes to about two million years before Satan is kicked out.

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    Didn't really know what Jesus was doing between 1914 and 1919.

    Deep down they really are pragmatic sometimes.

    paduan

    Edited by - A paduan on 3 September 2002 1:28:7

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    A better question to ask is: "what has Jesus been doing in the EIGHTY-EIGHT years SINCE 1914 when he began "regining as King?"

    Feeding false prophecy, false policies, needless deaths, needless prison sentences, burn-out, suicide, mental illness, family destruction and vile LIES to his "One, TRUE" representative on earh?

    From the evidence and taken with the claims of the WTS to solely represent Him, the answer is "yes."

    Farkel

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy
    how is he going to throw him into an abyss for one thousand years in a matter of minutes at armageddon???

    I've often wondered, well not often but I have wondered how we settled into the idea that Armageddon would literally be upon us and then over quickly. Like a tornado or earthquake or some other force of nature.

    Why wouldn't it last years?

    All of the pictures we grew up seeing in the WT depicting Armageddon were pictures of mass global destruction all at once. If it happened the way the WT depicts it, what exactly or how exactly would that effect the earth? Imagine tidal waves hurricanes earth quakes buildings falling all at once around the earth simultaneously.

  • metatron
    metatron

    Good Grief, Farkel! Let's go EVEN further!

    If Jesus had "all authority in heaven and earth" given him after his resurrection,
    what the heck was he doing for most of two thousand years???! Hanging out with Satan,
    who was still in heaven, maybe? If he had all authority, what kingdom was established
    in 1914?

    It just gets more and more silly

    metatron

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    So let me get this straight, Jehovah and Jesus were so unaware that they had to actually take TIME to JUDGE the various Churches of Christendom? They didn't KNOW which church was fulfilling His will? Funny, I thought Omniscience was one of the divine characteristics, silly me. Five years to kick out Satan? So much for being an Omnipotent God. THIS is why I never want to be associated with the JW's, they have a WEAK GOD!

  • breeze
    breeze

    NOT REALLY TOO INVOLVED....

    Given the world situation, It doesn't look like Jesus, has had a hands on active role for many years......

    The US is not backed by Jesus? Just World dominance alone, doesn't mean GOD is approving? Just the biggest guns!!!

    He isn't watching WALL STREET? He isn't watching my investments for certain?

    Jesus is overlooking the KIDS? The children seem to be coming up missing more? Or is that because the news casters are becoming more watchful or probably selling more stuff?

    All religions are full of themselves, they are more concerned with what they precieve as church and organization than what is really going on? It is about POWER and who gets what and why you should follow these rules that we have established.....

    Where is all that money anyway ????

    YIKES.....wake up.....see the....whole picture....don't get too involved with any of it.....

    BREEZE

    Edited by - breeze on 3 September 2002 10:49:51

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