by Defender 49 Replies latest jw friends
Celtic,
What kind of evidence would that be?? A bright flash in the Desert??
Remeber, he wont let us inspect the stuff he has so how are we supposed to know?? And when we did inspect it, we found TONS of NUCLEAR TECH, and he was still hiding most of it.
So, how are we supposed to get this 'evidence?' Hes not going to give it to us, and we have no way of getting it! Its a catch 22. So in this case all you can do it attack. War sucks but the ends do justify the means.
Just perhaps the US military spending budget, which is quite collossal, needs wars to fund it's very existence, black gold comes to mind once more, and why is it that from geophysicist satellite data, some of the largest oil reserves just happen to be under Afghanistan and now the developing paranoic rhetoric reinstating war on Iraq? Cooincidence? I think not. Difficult bloody issue, I know that, but jumping to wrong conclusions in the present global situation is fraught with uncertainty, God forbid the day Syria gets involved too.
Mark Price - (CAN)
Celtic,
A while ago I was posting on a Navy website and they were complaining about the budget cuts so I promptly responded "Well, go Start a War!"
Needless to say they got pissed off and defensive and said the military would never do such a thing. Well I think thats bullshit. We HAVE done it before (IMHO).
But, regarding IRAQ, Saddam has got to go. I wish we never would have gone to Afghanistan.....
Oh well.
Why are you worried about Syria??? There military is even more backword than IRAQs. 70s+80s soviet tech cannot match up with modern equipment. Saddam losts 1300? tanks compared to our 13! (which were lost to friendly fire :( )
Its not like Syria is going to attack Isreal and they are no military threat to us.
The British public I'm afraid at the common level are just not buying into that argument Crazy51Drinker, it's going to take a lot more than that to convince us, especially as presently right now, about 80% of UK MP's are against the war on Iraq and are being deluged with requests from the public to think clearly first, based on sound evidence that they fully understand, and then, only then, considering as a totally last resort, strikes against this country of Iraq. If the government get this wrong, which sadly, they have a propensity for doing, they risk undermining the trust of the british public and even now, are at far greater risk of causing needlessly huge splitting rifts within the party. Can Labour afford that risk?
On the subject of Weapons Inspectors. This has been initiated on the part of Iraq recently, but the general public doesn't nessarsarily receive this information, for a reason. It's called government propaganda, or brainwashing by advertising.
Again, we reiterate, WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE? If strong evidence is forthcoming and doesn't resemble a leaky bucket, the general feeling in the UK may well change in favour of taking him personally out. But why should innocent people be made to suffer too?
Mark Price (CAN)
There didn't have to be war in Afganastan. The Taliban could have handed over the international terrorist and not supported his network and everything coulda been fine. But things are getting better now over there. Women can walk down the street and not get beaten for showing their hands in public.
Celtic,
Its like a merry go round!
1) We need evidence
2) We cant get any, he wont let us in!
3) We have to attack him just to get the evidence!
4) We cant attack him without evidence!
5) Back to #2
Poppycock Truthseeker, complete balderdash, the facts are quite different for many there, however, I have stated my case for now, and further can progress no further along this subject path.
Mark Price (CAN) [email protected]
Hi Defender,
If you are going to bring the bible into the discussion, look at the Israelite way of warfare. Instead of just two atomic bombs, they would have destroyed all of Japan including the children because they worshiped the emperor instead of Jehovah or God. Think of armageddon, all humans will be destroyed except for a few who find the narrow and cramped road. So does God respect human life, draw your own conclusion from the facts of history.
I think more lives will be spared if Saddam is stopped now rather than later. If he does develop a nuclear warhead and a way to deliver it to the US then millions will die that could have been saved.
Yes, many wars are fought needlessly, but some are necessary to preserve freedom and prosperity for many who value a life worth living.
Ken P.
Edited by - Undecided on 6 September 2002 19:1:12
Celtic,
Has this 'oil supply' only been recently discovered???
I would think that we were in great position to influence Afghanistan before the tailiban came in. I would think that if had known about this oil before we would have been in there years ago....
Crazy51Drinker
Under the Official Secrets Act in the UK I am not authorised to offer anymore upon this subject, period. Sorry.
Mark Price (CAN)
