To Amazing and Others re Iraq

by Defender 49 Replies latest jw friends

  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    Well Celtic,

    If thats the case, then oil is Truely Evil LOL Satans Curse eh???

    Well, like I said, We need to get this whole hydrogen/ fusion thing going. And to make the oil companies happy we'll let them sell hydrogen at the old gas stations...

    Soooo Celtic, in the Oil Context, we are trying to take over Iraqs oil supply. Something we should have done it the $@# first place. Tell you what, we will take a chunk of Iraq on the gulf, and we will let Iran, Syria, and Saudi Arabia take the rest. There, everyone is happy......

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Defender:

    Warmongers? Is it your Christian duty to assist your neighbor if they are being killed? If you value life you will fight evil.

    Edited by - thichi on 6 September 2002 16:26:46

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Need Evidence? France does not think you do......

    France against publishing secret documents on Iraq's weapons programs

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    France said it was against publishing top-secret evidence on Iraq's alleged development of weapons of mass destruction, saying the public arena was not the place to wage such a campaign.

    "These are not issues which we can deal with publicly. This calls for serenity and seriousness, and we should therefore beware of any leaks and any saber-rattling proposals," Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin told France Info radio.

    On Tuesday, British Prime Minister Tony Blair said he would in the coming weeks release damning information about Baghdad's alleged efforts to develop nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, to prove the threat posed by Saddam Hussein.

    The foreign minister said that France and Britain had shared information on the proof of such a weapons program. and it "is out of the question to divulge these exchanges."

    De Villepin said it was important to act responsibly in evaluating whether a "country could own chemical or biological weapons, and if it could turn into a threat."

    He added it was important that France evaluate such risks together with its European partners.

    "The international community is today very worried, which justifies our determination in the face of the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction."

    Washington on Wednesday stepped up its war rhetoric, with President George W. Bush calling Saddam Hussein a "serious threat" and saying he would take his case against Iraq to the United Nations next week.

    De Villepin said "France, the world, cannot accommodate such a risk, and that is why we demand with insistance the return of the UN (weapons) inspectors to Iraq and that the country conforms with the demands of the international community."

    If it did, he stressed, it was up to the UN Security Council to decide on any international action.

    UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in 1998 in the face of an imminent US and British missile attack on Baghdad, and have since been barred from returning despite insistent UN demands.

  • freeman
    freeman

    Hello Defender,

    I won't comment on to much of what you have said; however I do draw everyones attention to one statement you have made.

    Furthermore, the US used chemical weapons in Vietnam, again when the US was not in any mortal danger.

    I ask that you please show evidence of the above claim as the average American, let alone the much more informed American are apparently unaware of our governments use of chemical weapons during the Vietnam War.

    I know my government has lots of secrets, of which some I am probably excluded, however I was wondering why someone like me, a US citizen with a security clearance well above top secret has never even heard that we used chemical weapons during the Vietnam War, yet you, a citizen of Canada somehow knows this astonishing information. Just wondering how this could be so.

    Incidentally, next week my facility will be hosting an anti-terrorist task force, it has to do with the 9/11 anniversary; anyway their command center as it turns out will be in the room directly across the hall from me and I am told their will be a contingent of FBI, CIA, and NTSB agents occupying the room. So if I get the chance, perhaps I will ask one of these agents about this apparent cover-up our government has had going on all these years. Then again, maybe I wont as I dont want them to think Im some type of crackpot.

    My suggestion to you is that you present your evidence for the statement you made, as failure to do so tends to make all other statements you may utter suspect and makes you look like, well a crackpot.

    Freeman

    Edited by - freeman on 6 September 2002 16:40:6

  • RandomTask
    RandomTask

    I thought everyone knew about agent orange and napalm.

    Which is immaterial to the case here anyway, the purpose was different and Vietnam was a mistake, but it was a war of containment, not a grab for power. It was about stopping communism and stoping China and the North Vietnamese from taking over non-communist south Vietnam. Just another legacy of the cold war. Doesn't make it right though so it shouldn't be used as justification for doing nothing about Saddam either.

  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    Agent Orange and Napalm! LOL

    Thats hillarious! I hope he wasnt talking about these!!!

    Common folks! Agent Orange is a defoiliant! Napalm is just jellied gasoline!

    These are not Chemical Weapons in any means. Chemical Weapons are Mustard Gas, Chlorine Gas, and Nerve Gas.

    Yes, Agent Orange and Napalm are made of Chemicals and Napalm is a weapon, but they are not Chemical Weapons of mass destruction or WMD's.

    TNT has a chemical reaction but that does not make it chemical weapon.

    Please folks, when talking about Chemical Weapons please make sure your talking about the correct ones.....

  • RandomTask
    RandomTask

    Yeah, thats what I meant. I don't know about us using chemical weapons in Vietnam, unless he meant these chemicals. Like someone else said, show us the proof!

  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    Random,

    Maybe he was talking about bullets??? I mean they have a CHEMICAL propellant?? Sooo I guess we used CHEMICAL weapons! LOL But then so did the NVA!!

  • RandomTask
    RandomTask

    Yeah crazy,

    Hey, what the hell are you doing posting in all these Iraq threads? Shouldn't you be flirting with CHEVYSNTATS or something?

  • freedom96
    freedom96

    War sucks. I will not argue that. However, sometimes it is needed, just as God used war back in the bible times. The bottem line is, that if we don't take care of Saddam now, he will take care of us later. All those old scary stories about nuclear war....... well if we sit back, we will be living it in real life. He has got to be stopped.

    I remember going out in service, and people being so pissed at us, for not saluting the flag, showing respect. Never understood in completely, until I got out. What a sacrafice some people have made, giving up their lives to go fight for this country, and the rights that we all have. How dare we not recognize what they have done.

    Yes, war does suck. But sometimes it has to be done.

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